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Team GOML Snow-Globe Lobby

Lechips11

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Okay okay, let's get this goin':​
First off, this is a cool concept. I was thinking the same idea when brainstorming a MCSG map, which I think would work well for it. The snow-globe idea for a lobby... it's nice, but does it relate to the arena too much? Maybe, but that's for you to decide. I love your reindeer, your snowman and your christmas tree. Those are the three things which really stand out for me.​
Of course, there are many problems which need fixing. The parkour seems a little cramped, and I see no reason to choose Iron over Snow for the base blocks. The coloured sheep... not too sure how they relate to your theme...​
As noted before, detail is key, and this certainly doesn't possess enough of it. The previously mentioned "one/two block types structures" haven't been justified, the buildings still look plain and boring. Your entrance to the new maze (Looking at the pictures you've shown) is very plain, and so I suggest giving it a floor pattern, a non-flat ceiling, something. Your spawn house is... better, although I can see you're still struggling to add detail. Flowerpots on the balcony, the roof covered in snow, these features and more would help enhance the look of the structure. Looking at those candycane-esque archways, I feel it would make more sense, to walk through them on the path, instead of them being at the side of the path. This is just my opinion, of course. Your barn... eh, I'm not really that impressed with it. The wool makes the structure look fake and too quirky. I suggest making the barn out of wood. I know that the red-white style is the generic barnhouse style, but I would opt with a wooden one instead. And of course, a barn needs (needs!) to have an awesome barn door. Try and create that instead of your fence. The insides are ugh too, to be brutally honest, Create pens for different types of animals, an anvil, dirt as the floor instead of grass, and so on. It might be the angle the screenshot is taken, but the right path looks a different width to the left. Detail is important, and that really should be changed if it isn't a screenshot trick. Your blacksmith's is pretty nice actually, good job on that. And see, detail! Adding the cobblestone really helps. Maybe an iron bar to imply a weapon stack?​
Moving on, your lava parkour certainly looks challenging. If this is based underground, I suggest swapping some of the stone blocks in the ceiling and walls for different ores.​
Overall, the concept is good enough, some structures are very good, but the execution is poor in some places.​
That is all.​
And sorry for the very harsh review, read my signature!​
EDIT: Read the guy above me as well! ^^^ He knows what he's talking about.​
 

nate252

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I am liking where it is going, although there are a few things that have popped up in my mind, the first being the theme. While at this very point in time a Christmas theme really works, however, in less then a months time it will lose it's relevancy. Maybe switching it to just be a winter theme could possibly work maybe somehow.
This is a good point but all the stuff there is winter themed already. People build snowmen after Christmas.. I think it will be good until feb or march.

And to all the other people complaining about detail.. people... have you seen the lobby we are currently in? This would be much more fun and much more appealing to the eyes to be in. It might not stand up against other submissions... but its certainly better than the current lobby. Anything besides a standard plain boring lobby would be to be honest..
 

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This is a good point but all the stuff there is winter themed already. People build snowmen after Christmas.. I think it will be good until feb or march.

And to all the other people complaining about detail.. people... have you seen the lobby we are currently in? This would be much more fun and much more appealing to the eyes to be in. It might not stand up against other submissions... but its certainly better than the current lobby. Anything besides a standard plain boring lobby would be to be honest..
While snowmen are an all around winter thing, Christmas trees and Santas be not, which was kinda what I was getting at in that one.
 

nate252

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While snowmen are an all around winter thing, Christmas trees and Santas be not, which was kinda what I was getting at in that one.
So we get a few more months of Christmas in the lobby.. dosnt sound bad to me
 

James Lam

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Ok thanks guys for the replies. We will edit some more taking your posts into cosideration!
 

ARB1T3R

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Thanks for the advice everyone! were going to work on it tonight and hopefully we can upload it for you guys to look at XD if it wasn't for you guys then the map wouldn't be as good as it is becoming. Thanks Alot from Team GOML
 

Lechips11

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This is a good point but all the stuff there is winter themed already. People build snowmen after Christmas.. I think it will be good until feb or march.

And to all the other people complaining about detail.. people... have you seen the lobby we are currently in? This would be much more fun and much more appealing to the eyes to be in. It might not stand up against other submissions... but its certainly better than the current lobby. Anything besides a standard plain boring lobby would be to be honest..
I feel you're being a tad too defensive of this lobby. The detail does need work; you're not oblivious to the fact, yet you look upon complaining about the detail in a negative way. In your opinion, this lobby is better than the current one, but that's subjective. The lobby needs detail and you're telling people not to give feedback for the detail. The detail is necessary, as too is the feedback. Without feedback, the lobby would be plain, dull and ugly. It still has some bad elements, but it is certainly improving.


So we get a few more months of Christmas in the lobby.. dosnt sound bad to me
Sigh... I feel you're not fully grasping the fact that if Christmas is over in real life, it should be over in Minecraft too. The lobby would look outdated, in my opinion.
 

ARB1T3R

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Okay okay, let's get this goin':​
First off, this is a cool concept. I was thinking the same idea when brainstorming a MCSG map, which I think would work well for it. The snow-globe idea for a lobby... it's nice, but does it relate to the arena too much? Maybe, but that's for you to decide. I love your reindeer, your snowman and your christmas tree. Those are the three things which really stand out for me.​
Of course, there are many problems which need fixing. The parkour seems a little cramped, and I see no reason to choose Iron over Snow for the base blocks. The coloured sheep... not too sure how they relate to your theme...​
As noted before, detail is key, and this certainly doesn't possess enough of it. The previously mentioned "one/two block types structures" haven't been justified, the buildings still look plain and boring. Your entrance to the new maze (Looking at the pictures you've shown) is very plain, and so I suggest giving it a floor pattern, a non-flat ceiling, something. Your spawn house is... better, although I can see you're still struggling to add detail. Flowerpots on the balcony, the roof covered in snow, these features and more would help enhance the look of the structure. Looking at those candycane-esque archways, I feel it would make more sense, to walk through them on the path, instead of them being at the side of the path. This is just my opinion, of course. Your barn... eh, I'm not really that impressed with it. The wool makes the structure look fake and too quirky. I suggest making the barn out of wood. I know that the red-white style is the generic barnhouse style, but I would opt with a wooden one instead. And of course, a barn needs (needs!) to have an awesome barn door. Try and create that instead of your fence. The insides are ugh too, to be brutally honest, Create pens for different types of animals, an anvil, dirt as the floor instead of grass, and so on. It might be the angle the screenshot is taken, but the right path looks a different width to the left. Detail is important, and that really should be changed if it isn't a screenshot trick. Your blacksmith's is pretty nice actually, good job on that. And see, detail! Adding the cobblestone really helps. Maybe an iron bar to imply a weapon stack?​
Moving on, your lava parkour certainly looks challenging. If this is based underground, I suggest swapping some of the stone blocks in the ceiling and walls for different ores.​
Overall, the concept is good enough, some structures are very good, but the execution is poor in some places.​
That is all.​
And sorry for the very harsh review, read my signature!​
EDIT: Read the guy above me as well! ^^^ He knows what he's talking about.​
No it isnt harsh at all. you are expressing your opinion and giving some great advice. Thank you for taking your time to respond. it helps us alot. XD
 

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I feel you're being a tad too defensive of this lobby. The detail does need work; you're not oblivious to the fact, yet you look upon complaining about the detail in a negative way. In your opinion, this lobby is better than the current one, but that's subjective. The lobby needs detail and you're telling people not to give feedback for the detail. The detail is necessary, as too is the feedback. Without feedback, the lobby would be plain, dull and ugly. It still has some bad elements, but it is certainly improving.




Sigh... I feel you're not fully grasping the fact that if Christmas is over in real life, it should be over in Minecraft too. The lobby would look outdated, in my opinion.
Okay lets begin with.. nate252 wasn't defending the lobby, he was giving his opinion. so don't go and complain about it. he actually gave us heaps of advice so leave him alone okay? The lobby HAS been edited and now has some more detail. We have had heaps of feedback and nate252's comment wont change that we are still going to be fixing the map and adding more stuff. I found that you were being very harsh when you said "Without feedback, the lobby would be plain, dull and ugly." because we spent many hours on building it and you shot us down with a rude comment. But Thank you for the comment that the map is improving.

Also nate252 is entitled to his own opinion. if he likes how the map will give the feel of Christmas in Minecraft, well, im sure other people will feel the same. Its like having a space map but not liking it because were not in space... And there is so much beneath the surface of this map that I don't think you should care about some parts of the map that represent Christmas.

Thanks for replying but you shouldn't make fun of other peoples comments just because you have a different opinion.
 

Neodude

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Okay lets begin with.. nate252 wasn't defending the lobby, he was giving his opinion. so don't go and complain about it. he actually gave us heaps of advice so leave him alone okay? The lobby HAS been edited and now has some more detail. We have had heaps of feedback and nate252's comment wont change that we are still going to be fixing the map and adding more stuff. I found that you were being very harsh when you said "Without feedback, the lobby would be plain, dull and ugly." because we spent many hours on building it and you shot us down with a rude comment. But Thank you for the comment that the map is improving.

Also nate252 is entitled to his own opinion. if he likes how the map will give the feel of Christmas in Minecraft, well, im sure other people will feel the same. Its like having a space map but not liking it because were not in space... And there is so much beneath the surface of this map that I don't think you should care about some parts of the map that represent Christmas.

Thanks for replying but you shouldn't make fun of other peoples comments just because you have a different opinion.
Honestly..its not really like hating a space map because we are not in space. Christmas is a very specific holiday, and is set into a specific season. space is not. In three months time, it would be redundant, as multiple holidays would have passed, like new years, Valentines, and St. Patrick's day.
 

darkai202

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Honestly..its not really like hating a space map because we are not in space. Christmas is a very specific holiday, and is set into a specific season. space is not. In three months time, it would be redundant, as multiple holidays would have passed, like new years, Valentines, and St. Patrick's day.
And then we would have another lobby, this isn't permanent y'know?
 

Neodude

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And then we would have another lobby, this isn't permanent y'know?
But my thoughts are that the map should be made with longevity in mind. It should be made to be thematically relevant and entertaining for many months, and not lose either of those in a few weeks.
 

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