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The Men of the Bac do not hack! I refuse to call a control remap a hack when in reality it's a fix.
I agree that Minecraft sprinting definitely doesn't work right at times, however, the fact that the only way to fix it is by downloading that mod means that there will be some people who won't download and install it, therefore those who do have an advantage. The rules of MCSG are that no mods that improve the performance of your character are allowed, and you can't deny that better sprint improves your performance. That is to the best of my knowledge why it is not allowed on our servers. If the Minecraft developers add a fix for the sprinting, well fine. Great. I personally would be extremely happy about that. :p But a mod is not the same as a fix.
 

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The Men of the Bac do not hack! I refuse to call a control remap a hack when in reality it's a fix.
It does fix the sprint bob, yes, but in PVP situations, it is a buff. It allows a player to sprint while attacking, continously without stop, and the result is hardly any different from sprint hacks.

It gives an unfair advantage to people without Better Sprint, and you can't force everybody to get Better sprint, so it is banned. I know you have your opinions and defend your argument that it should be allowed, but at the current moment, it isn't and you have to abide by the rules of MCSG if you want to continue playing on it.

Also, your ban has enraged a LOT of Baccas and there has been image proof of them wanting to start spamming the forums and doing bitter stuff to the MCSG community, do you want to be the cause of this?

I suggest you either tell them to stop, they will listen to you. It's been proven when they downloaded Better Sprint because of your praise for it.
 

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May be a fix, but one that makes the game far easier for those that don't have it. So I agree with you, it is not a hack, but it does grant you an unfair advantage over other players, and is banned for that reason. Persisting on using the mod even when the administration had told you pointedly to stop seems a bit silly to me...
OptiFine is allowed - that gives you an advantage over those who don't know how to set it up. Explain to me why it's not banned as well? It grants FPS boost, farther render distance and advanced graphical options. There is no reason for Better Sprint to be banned - it's banned purely out of stubbornness. I made my opinion on the subject very clear and offered a reasonable solution. Encourage players to use Better Sprint - problem solved! Another thing that really bugs me is the ghost fix command. Not many players know about it, but it can make a huge difference if you're character has gotten out of sync with the server. Explain to me why that isn't something well publicized?

The type of player who doesn't know how to install better sprint isn't exactly going to be game winning material.
It's more than likely they are cannon fodder for experienced players.
So that's a poor excuse.

I've voiced my opinion and effectively been silenced as a result. Which is fine.
 

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OptiFine is allowed - that gives you an advantage over those who don't know how to set it up. Explain to me why it's not banned as well? It grants FPS boost, farther render distance and advanced graphical options. There is no reason for Better Sprint to be banned - it's banned purely out of stubbornness. I made my opinion on the subject very clear and offered a reasonable solution. Encourage players to use Better Sprint - problem solved! Another thing that really bugs me is the ghost fix command. Not many players know about it, but it can make a huge difference if you're character has gotten out of sync with the server. Explain to me why that isn't something well publicized?

The type of player who doesn't know how to install better sprint isn't exactly going to be game winning material.
It's more than likely they are cannon fodder for experienced players.
So that's a poor excuse.

I've voiced my opinion and effectively been silenced as a result. Which is fine.
Because some people NEED it to actually play.
While in Better Sprint's case, you don't.

And you were silenced for being stubborn, and not uninstalling the mod!
 

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You do not NEED optifine to play. Who told you that?
I used to have a horrible laptop that ran Minecraft on 10-12 fps, I would lag out almost every game and frames updates as fast as grass grew, I installed optifine and started getting 20 fps, which was still horrible, but it made the game actually playable.

And there was also money probably involved in this.
Optifine banned = players can't play
Optifine allowed = More people play = More people donate.
 

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I used to have a horrible laptop that ran Minecraft on 10-12 fps, I would lag out almost every game and frames updates as fast as grass grew, I installed optifine and started getting 20 fps, which was still horrible, but it made the game actually playable.
Well by your logic that is an unfair advantage. You can't guarantee that all players who run Minecraft at 10-20fps will install Optifine to increase their gameplay. So to be fair no one should be allow to use Optifine. Just wouldn't be fair to allow such an imbalance among players. Imagine that poor sucker running at 10fps, meanwhile because of your "hacked" client you're getting 20fps. That's just not right. Can I have a moderator in here please. Crafty needs a ban!
 

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Well by your logic that is an unfair advantage. You can't guarantee that all players who run Minecraft at 10-20fps will install Optifine to increase their gameplay. So to be fair no one should be allow to use Optifine. Just wouldn't be fair to allow such an imbalance among players. Imagine that poor sucker running at 10fps, meanwhile because of your "hacked" client you're getting 20fps. That's just not right. Can I have a moderator in here please. Crafty needs a ban!
Yes, I do need a ban. That would totally help the argument!
Because I totally did just break a rule!
 

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OptiFine is allowed - that gives you an advantage over those who don't know how to set it up. Explain to me why it's not banned as well? It grants FPS boost, farther render distance and advanced graphical options. There is no reason for Better Sprint to be banned - it's banned purely out of stubbornness. I made my opinion on the subject very clear and offered a reasonable solution. Encourage players to use Better Sprint - problem solved! Another thing that really bugs me is the ghost fix command. Not many players know about it, but it can make a huge difference if you're character has gotten out of sync with the server. Explain to me why that isn't something well publicized?

The type of player who doesn't know how to install better sprint isn't exactly going to be game winning material.
It's more than likely they are cannon fodder for experienced players.
So that's a poor excuse.

I've voiced my opinion and effectively been silenced as a result. Which is fine.
Optifine is a mod which boosts people's FPS and the graphical fidelity of the game. While this does confer an advantage, as do advanced setups and other factors, they do not correlate directly with an increase in an ability to PvP effectively. On the other hand, the Better Sprint Mod allows for near uninterrupted sprinting, and, consequently, much more efficient and skilled PvP. If everyone did use the Better Sprint Mod, then it would be acceptable, but as a large majority of the community will not be using it, those that do will be claiming an unfair advantage over the rest. And believe me, from running a community, it is next to impossible to encourage every user, or even the majority of users to use a single mod.

To your next point, that of the Ghostfix command. Though this seems rather unrelated, and more of an attempt to snipe at the administration then anything else,I do agree with you. The command was publicized on the forums quite a bit when it was released, but that publicity did not quite reach its way into the servers themselves, which I do believe would be beneficial. Perhaps a message system would be useful, both to remind players of the rules, and to let them know helpful tips. Thanks for the idea :)

Finally, I would like to address your concluding point, where you say that you have been silenced for voicing your opinion. I would have to disagree with this, and instead present an alternate way of viewing it. You have voiced your opinion, and the staff have heard it and, ultimately, disagreed with it. As such, they are not silencing you in any way, but merely disagreeing with your opinion, which they have the right to do as the administrators of these servers. As the rule which has been instated and of which you were well aware was that the Better Sprint Mod was banned, your ban should come as an expected occurrence. You were not being silenced, but rather being banned for refusing to follow the rules of the server, just as any other user would be.
 
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