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Trying to "save" MCGamer.

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  • Enjoy 1.8

    Votes: 32 32.3%
  • Dont enjoy 1.8

    Votes: 9 9.1%
  • Want 1.7 back, whatever it takes

    Votes: 58 58.6%

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Ceroria

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Okay. People's armor aura doesn't turn red anymore, you can't blockhit, and the entire issue of autoclicking was almost fixed. If anything, 1.8 has benefitted us. It took a while for hacks to update to the version, meaning the hacker population decreased, and closet cheating (macros/TB) has been nullified.

As for the lag, I don't know what everyone is complaining about. I split my time between my mom's and dad's house and neither of my computers have had any frame rate drops, I mean these computers are pretty good but I still would have had some FPS drops, and I haven't.

1.8 hasn't "taken away from all skill" it's made us adapt to new ways of PvPing. It's opened my eyes to things other than click speed and strafing, although click speed never was a determining factor in a fight, it was only slightly beneficial if you look at the legitimate mechanics of PvP.

So, I've done a lot of defending on 1.8. I think it has improved the mechanics of our network by letting us add features that would be otherwise impossible. Yes, 1.7 is more comfortable for playing, but having our server 1.8 evens out the playing field.

Look at Badlion. They have both versions, but they also have serious lag issues, and an uneven playing field. Players on 1.7 have a distinct reach and combo advantage over players on 1.8.

Overall, 1.8 is the most recent and stable version of Minecraft and we need to accept that. You can't stay on 1.7 forever.
 
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As said many times before, MCGamer is not going back to 1.7

If you've been keeping up with the Community, you'd know so many people have similar threads to this.
There are many updates on the server that are 1.8 and it'd be near impossible to switch back to 1.7.

There are also less hackers in 1.8 as many hacked clients are still 1.7.

As for the PvP aspect, it's something you'll have to get used to. Just because you're adapted to 1.7 PvP does not mean the entire server can just switch back like that. My suggestion is for you to familiarize yourself with 1.8 PvP. It's a pretty wonderful update once you see all the aspects.

Also, there's the fact that a bunch of maps include 1.8 blocks & changing it back to 1.7 would ruin the environment they tried to make with the 1.8 blocks.

Thanks for reading :)
-Holidays
 

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It seems that most people are unhappy with the 1.8 update due to its large impact on PvP. As far as I'm aware, it's practically impossible to convert the entire network back to 1.7. Therefore, exploring other possibilities remains as the only applicable option. With that being said, I'm interesting in people's opinions regarding an alternative which may be possible to implement. If we were able to modify the PvP mechanics of MCGamer to replicate 1.7, would you support this change?
A new NCP would be fantastic. As for now, people complain most because of the crazy combos other people get. Nowadays, anyone could just swing their sword and get a crazy 6 hit combo. It really isn't fair at all since you need only 3-4 clicks per second now to kill someone.
As much as I support your idea with the PvP side, I think the other attribute to user(s) 'hate of 1.8' is the FPS issue, lag spikes etc. How would we fix this problem? Replicating PvP to 1.7 would be amazing though!
There isn't many people that complain about the 'FPS issue, lag spikes', it's mostly the combat that changed the whole PvP aspect of MCGamer.
I don't think it's fair to say that the staff don't play the game when the number 1 position at the moment is a Sr. Mod ;)

Also, I completely agree with you for wishing that we could get some aspects of 1.7 PvP back. Honestly, I play a lot more now than I did before and there are things that I definitely don't think I noticed as much in 1.7 such as extended reach and how easy it is to get comboed.

As croe already stated, from what I've been told it's impossible to revert back to 1.7. That's why I'm hoping that 1.9 is the answer for many of us. Trust us though, it's not because our staff "ISN'T LISTENING TO ANY OF THE COMMUNITY OMG".
Yes '1.9 is the answer for many of' because there will be shields and duel swords implemented !!! That's exactelly why people wanted a 'Combat Update', because we wanted shields and new types of arrows !!! Also, I've seen people that wanted to remove "Spam Click" because apparently it makes the game worse....
 

smashmaster

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OMG! They are not going back to 1.8...why are these threads being made?
 

Atu

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1.8 does require skill, more so than 1.7. This is why some people who used to get the odd extra hit now are untouchable. Some notable things that affect PVP are:
- The hits are now based on real clicking speed as anything over 15cps is nullified and regulated, this means about 40% of hits if you're autoclicking are nullified.
- Player correspondence has changed making it more on Pvp and MUCH less on ping. Block hitting is regulated and can no longer be abused.
- Sprinting mechanics are now changed (hit priority for non sprinting and sprinting entities are now much more consistent.)
This is only the tip of the iceberg. Although it has downsides, once you get used to it, the positives far outweigh them.
Js most people complaining about 1.8 and its hit detection were most likely autoclickers....
 

NickSharpx ☆

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I don't think it's fair to say that the staff don't play the game when the number 1 position at the moment is a Sr. Mod ;)

Also, I completely agree with you for wishing that we could get some aspects of 1.7 PvP back. Honestly, I play a lot more now than I did before and there are things that I definitely don't think I noticed as much in 1.7 such as extended reach and how easy it is to get comboed.

As croe already stated, from what I've been told it's impossible to revert back to 1.7. That's why I'm hoping that 1.9 is the answer for many of us. Trust us though, it's not because our staff "ISN'T LISTENING TO ANY OF THE COMMUNITY OMG".
1.9 is not going to be the answer as long as MCSG will use shields and other things that could possibly kill the whole gamemode.
However, if they release 1.9 with new aspects of PvP combined with the 1.7 ones it should be fine, I personally don't think that they'll ever put shields on MCSG, as it would mean downgrading the gamemode to a state that only the childish part of Minecraft could enjoy.
 

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When 1.8 came out... I actually kinda liked it... I think I had a flu or something then, because 1.8 is one of the worst updates I've seen in a while (And I've been in the minecraft community for a while now). But as players got used to the "PvP style" of 1.8, it was much harder for myself to kill someone, which really made me mad. Only recently I think I've been getting a reasonable amount of wins, but they are still awful compared to when I was PvP'ing in 1.7. The main reason why I absolutely hate the 1.8 update is because, when you get a combo, somehow that person can bring it back. For example you might get a triple hit, then your opponent comes back with getting a quad hit, which is really annoying. And as a lot of people knew clicking speed doesn't really matter anymore... ;-; which I really hated, my clicks were decent, but since 1.8 they don't really make a difference. And the resource packs... well it's just really annoying that you have to spend a couple of minutes fixing a resource pack, that isn't 100% accurate, although in some resource packs I like the fat rod, but on some I despise it. Also I really hate the rendering on 1.8, some people that have a really bad computer may have noticed this, but when using 2 render distance the rendering makes minecraft look awful, and just a really bad experience. Luckily I have a good computer. But for a lot of people, 1.8 improved their FPS by a lot, although since installing the new graphics card, I don't seem to notice any FPS difference between 1.7 and 1.8.
 

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