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Please stop the stat reset. (Awareness)

LovinMcBitz

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Although i do know a few good players (With very good stats), who are in favor of the stats being reset. In their minds it will give them the opportunity they need, as well as inspiration to start playing again. I guess the #1 rank will do that to you.
 

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Just going to comment on this one aspect - it isn't "ripping people off" if they bought a stats reset, then we decide to do a global stats reset. With that logic, we're ripping people off if someone buys platinum for $100, then the next day we start a 25% off sale and platinum goes down to $75. As much as we sympathize with the people that happens to, nothing can be done about it - it's just inconvenient timing. Whether you like it or not, MCGamer is a business, and must be run like one for our network to survive. That means we can't just give refunds for those "inconvenient timing" scenarios; in the end, you still got what you paid for.
 

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Just going to comment on this one aspect - it isn't "ripping people off" if they bought a stats reset, then we decide to do a global stats reset. With that logic, we're ripping people off if someone buys platinum for $100, then the next day we start a 25% off sale and platinum goes down to $75. As much as we sympathize with the people that happens to, nothing can be done about it - it's just inconvenient timing. Whether you like it or not, MCGamer is a business, and must be run like one for our network to survive. That means we can't just give refunds for those "inconvenient timing" scenarios; in the end, you still got what you paid for.
people are aware of sales though. it's not an uncommon thing. a stat reset is a very uncommon thing for this server. when is the last time a stat reset happened?..exactly.
 

Col_StaR

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Just going to comment on this one aspect - it isn't "ripping people off" if they bought a stats reset, then we decide to do a global stats reset. With that logic, we're ripping people off if someone buys platinum for $100, then the next day we start a 25% off sale and platinum goes down to $75. As much as we sympathize with the people that happens to, nothing can be done about it - it's just inconvenient timing. Whether you like it or not, MCGamer is a business, and must be run like one for our network to survive. That means we can't just give refunds for those "inconvenient timing" scenarios; in the end, you still got what you paid for.
Running with the Inconvenient Timing statement, I had a metaphor occur to me just yesterday.

I decided to buy an SSD late two nights ago. I was deciding between the Samsung EVO series or the Samsung Pro series. The EVO series is the consumer-oriented SSD that is $15 cheaper than the Pro but also -13% slower. The Pro series is an enthusiast-oriented SSD that is 13% faster, but $15 more expensive. After much deliberation, I decided to save some money and go with the EVO series.
Only 12 hours later, I find out that the Pro series was on sale for the exact same price I bought the EVO SSD for. On top of that, because I had already been charged and the item shipped (Newegg is just that fast), I couldn't cancel the order. So I lost out on a better SSD for the same price, simply due to bad timing.

But you know what? It's unfortunate, but it's fair. No one was conspiring against me, no one stole money from my pocket. I simply made a choice independently, only to find out later that didn't make the optimal choice. That is simply life.

Chad and I talked about this, and we both agreed that anyone who purchased a stats reset did so on their own accord, and it's their decision. They chose to pay money and reset their rank whilst unaware of our plans, just as we drew up the plans for a global reset unaware that the user was going to buy a stats reset. They're separately-occurring events, and we have to treat them as such. Thus, no one's getting "ripped off by MCGamer" as much as they are accidentally fumbling into some bad timing. It's unfortunate, but it happens.

That being said, if the Stats Reset thing is approved, we would definitely give server-wide warnings in advance. People will know that the global reset is coming; if they buy a reset on their own accord even knowing that information, that's their fault. But hey, you can still save your stats reset even after the global reset, so purchasing then still has its purpose.
 

Giolightning

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Just going to comment on this one aspect - it isn't "ripping people off" if they bought a stats reset, then we decide to do a global stats reset. With that logic, we're ripping people off if someone buys platinum for $100, then the next day we start a 25% off sale and platinum goes down to $75. As much as we sympathize with the people that happens to, nothing can be done about it - it's just inconvenient timing. Whether you like it or not, MCGamer is a business, and must be run like one for our network to survive. That means we can't just give refunds for those "inconvenient timing" scenarios; in the end, you still got what you paid for.
Devin, be smart of what you're doing.
Remember this, implement the reset and this network WILL lose players = less money.
 

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To be honest, this idea needs work. This just "Reset all stats. done." Thing won't work. They need to have like Monthly leaderboards or something
 
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Devin, be smart of what you're doing.
Remember this, implement the reset and this network WILL lose players = less money.
remember it is a possibility, an even higher possibility knowing that the antvenom merge will probably start MCSG v3 or a revamped version of the current mcsg version.
 

Giolightning

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remember it is a possibility, an even higher possibility knowing that the antvenom merge will probably start MCSG v3 or a revamped version of the current mcsg version.
Just because the AntVenom network is merging with MCSG doesn't mean we have to reset stats
 

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Just going to comment on this one aspect - it isn't "ripping people off" if they bought a stats reset, then we decide to do a global stats reset. With that logic, we're ripping people off if someone buys platinum for $100, then the next day we start a 25% off sale and platinum goes down to $75. As much as we sympathize with the people that happens to, nothing can be done about it - it's just inconvenient timing. Whether you like it or not, MCGamer is a business, and must be run like one for our network to survive. That means we can't just give refunds for those "inconvenient timing" scenarios; in the end, you still got what you paid for.
Could you also give your reasoning for why the stats need to be reset to add things like monthly leaderboards? I see why it may be needed to add new stats, but couldn't you just add new stats without resetting the stats?
 
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Well, this debate is going to be very predictable. Most people on the forums are going to vote "no", because they are often donors with good statistics and a lot of wins that they don't want to lose. They will argue that having their statistics is some sort of right, when it's actually just a silly number. They are going to argue that the stat resets will look very bad if we do this. These will be mainly the same people who despised Raffle Voting from the start, a.k.a. people who are scared of change. This party will be very outspoken, and many will use alternate accounts to skew the thread vote.

Then there will be a few moderates, who want monthly leaderboards, etc... This is probably the most reasonable way to view things.

Then the people voting "yes" will be the more open-minded people, who don't jump on the bandwagon with all the popular people every time something radical is suggested. The "yes" voters will lose the thread poll but win the in game poll, while having significant but not complete say in the final verdict.

The final verdict will be some kind of a compromise, which will be implemented in a long time.

I don't see why this thread had to be made; it didn't bring up any new points. One of the administrators clearly acknowledged in one of the first few pages of the actual thread that stat resets could be an issue, but that is not the smoking gun on the issue. The purpose of this thread was probably to try to skew the vote towards the "no" side, which seems to have worked. Oh well... Your opinion is still valid.
Most yes voters are either A.Creeper Farts, GoldEllipse fanboys, or people that want free stat resets. Not even close to open-minded.
 

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