Petition - Change the deleting evidence rule. [200+ Signatures!]

[Giggity69Goo]

Problem: Deleting evidence even accidentally will result in a permaban (1st offense) for a user who was trying to help the community. For hackers it is a 7 day ban (1st offense) for someone who was doing harm to the community. Recently, some important players including Cscoop and Twee were perma banned for accidentally deleting evidence, and not being aware of the rule.

Solution: A lot of this has controversy has come from people disputing months after there ban was given. I say it is a 7 day 1st offense and permaban 2nd offense for deleting evidence within a month of the report. After a month, they are no longer obligated to keep the video on Youtube. The banned user has had plenty of time to dispute, and they can no longer dispute their ban if the evidence was deleted. If the staff feel that they need the evidence longer, they can screen record the video, so they have it on record. It is unfair to hold someone who was trying to help the community accountable for a video months after. What if they delete their channel and forget about the video?

Petition: To make this change happen, the community needs your support. Reply to this thread with, "I, [insert name here] would like to sign the petition." Then I will add your name to the list. Note: You don't have to agree 100% with the solution to sign, if you are signing you are saying that you want a change to the rules. That change does not necessarily have to be my exact solution.

Players who want change:

1. arsenalfcgunners
2. Sean
3. Harris|DareDevilMan1
4. Edog and Edog
5. EricParazak
6. Cscoop
7. Jaan
8. MinedAndCrafted5
9. Damien // Teepwn
10. Mamiamato24
11. Ex0dUs101
12. beep253
13. TheMaskedDomo
14. demonsushi
15. WertQuadNine
16. Mint_Sibs
17. SuperxAndrew
18. Unknown // Rainbow Derp
    [*]AGFire2013
19. Imanol_Magana
20. NixGamez
21. Sidopey
22. shadowblaze12
23. Ag | Alex
24. Aedrift
25. Joel Maury-Holmes
26. Twee
27. I_love_desk
28. Twistology
29. AlLuc
30. mr_pendle
31. Kerbals
32. Kauff
33. niek
34. Attorah
35. Jockster2002
36. Groot
37. Mooclan
38. Crackling
39. ToastySoldier_
40. Manos
41. Giolightning
42. Smizack
43. xPandq
44. ChrisComedies
45. Dantelius
46. ThisJKid
47. MeatalclawMC
48. AuroraV2
49. xPvPProdigyx
50. NotCanziano
51. Timtommytom
52. Eathuis
53. Ikanacanyon7
54. justin69
55. thedude2012
56. Qyxr
57. Frazzel
58. PuffyCottonCandy
59. Ranger_zZ
60. PROxNIGGLES_25
61. Cat_On_A_Poptart
62. DoY0uEvenStrafe
63. frozenpretzel
64. Raibushi
65. JCagg
66. Fusionnuggets
67. Znike1
68. Pixelatorx2
69. 547awesomeness
70. Sim_Man
71. RyanCx
72. PaperVinnie53
73. Shake_Junt00
74. ItalianJesus
75. XplodingKiwi
76. Jam0919
77. CashFloMoney
78. Elryst
79. DaGamerYT
80. Scrape
81. ttt6t
82. CyberPIE
83. HayHotshot
84. rawriledino
85. derrgand
86. LampsyLegendMC
87. MCOnThePCAndrew
88. Metalmate9
89. Knaala
90. 420oz
91. yannr00s
92. ItsCheerry
93. Yangervis
94. swiitchbackz
95. MizadorMC
96. iBigNub
97. zCrits_
98. MineCell
99. BaconUnicorn
100. DrRustyPanda611
101. EricDude01
102. robbiemcfadden
103. Bunns
104. Slagguaron
105. SertifiedBlocks
106. ThatFuryFellow
107. F34RL3555
108. KrypticMC11
109. Chris|Bro
110. Lukeabbott
111. oshisomethingmeh
112. FanYG
113. FS_MonkeyDoesgames
114. Flixo
115. darmody101
116. HomeyGaming
117. TheFanManiac
118. IronwoodWB
119. RobertHDPotatoes
120. IceWolf608
121. Xentrik
122. Lemonz87
123. The_Man
124. MiecraftSuperNatural
125. JokoSwag
126. WalkerRed
127. ZachPlayzMC
128. Lis
129. Chipyy
130. 10Hearted
131. HohoPvP
132. John jennings
133. GOLD_ninja14
134. Wyz_Guy
135. JonJayMan

Total Signatures: 136

SIGN ME UP

 

[ChargedPVP]

To be honest, this petition won't do much. We would like to change the rule but as of right now its next to impossible. The staff are working on a permanent solution. We would like to be able to store all of the evidence in a database but it isn't practical. With all the videos and screenshots that we use to ban people every day it would be a ton of money (more than we can afford). This petition could get 1,000 signatures but until we find a practical permanent solution, the rule is most likely not going to change. So here is my solution, don't delete the evidence. Keep it on your youtube and i suggest having a backup of the video. I know that takes up hard drive space but right now its the only way. I apologize if you don't fee the rule is fair but right now it won't change no matter how many people sign this.

 

[shampoosh]

I, shampoosh would like to sign the petition. c:

 

[Gl0wstonewarrior]

I, gl0wstonewarrior, would like to sign this petition.

 

[Isoto]

I, _Isoto_ would like to sign the petition

 

[Feller]

FellerPlaysGames

 

[GoldenWave]

I, GoldenWave98, would like to sign the petition.

 

[bcfcAnt]

Does I agree mean you want to sign? I am guessing yes, just want to make sure.

Yes, I'd like to sign. <3

 

[Pixelatorx2]

To be honest, this petition won't do much. We would like to change the rule but as of right now its next to impossible. The staff are working on a permanent solution. We would like to be able to store all of the evidence in a database but it isn't practical. With all the videos and screenshots that we use to ban people every day it would be a ton of money (more than we can afford). This petition could get 1,000 signatures but until we find a practical permanent solution, the rule is most likely not going to change. So here is my solution, don't delete the evidence. Keep it on your youtube and i suggest having a backup of the video. I know that takes up hard drive space but right now its the only way. I apologize if you don't fee the rule is fair but right now it won't change no matter how many people sign this.

Exactly the attitude that will prevent change from happening ever.

 

[arsenal]

Will be updating later today.

 

[QuantumTiger]

Sign me up

 

[I_love_desk]

To be honest, this petition won't do much. We would like to change the rule but as of right now its next to impossible. The staff are working on a permanent solution. We would like to be able to store all of the evidence in a database but it isn't practical. With all the videos and screenshots that we use to ban people every day it would be a ton of money (more than we can afford). This petition could get 1,000 signatures but until we find a practical permanent solution, the rule is most likely not going to change. So here is my solution, don't delete the evidence. Keep it on your youtube and i suggest having a backup of the video. I know that takes up hard drive space but right now its the only way. I apologize if you don't fee the rule is fair but right now it won't change no matter how many people sign this.

No-one here thinks that deleting evidence isn't a problem. Clearly it's a pain for the staff and can make things difficult. The point, though, is that a first-time permaban for something which is almost always accidental is ridiculous. The people that get banned for this are also reporting rule breakers. There is a very simple solution; that being a first-t

Fun Fact: If you want someone to respect an idea of yours, a proposal is the way to go. A petition shows that you are going against us currently, whilst a proposal shows that you want to work with us.

[/My 2 cents]

There have been an absolute TON of threads on this subject ever since Cscoop 's ban. Each has put forward a proposal, and each has been ignored or dismissed by staff. I also know that some people have emailed MCgamer about it, and also have been put down. Clearly the staff do not realise how much of a problem this is for the community. A petition is a great way to show how much this means to the community, and a last resort since everything else is being ignored.

Well, that's just, like, my opinion, man.