Moral Support and Getting Help- Discussing Events of Late

[Boboaluitz]

(My name's in the screenshot )

But as I have said before, it's best not to fight fire with fire. Though Ender's deceit is less than desirable in a forum situation, like Blazemaster's alleged death a while ago, the community IS affected by it and WILL react. But now that it has been uncovered, it'd be uncouth of us to make things even worse than they are. There will be a lot of retaliation as a lot of people don't like being that emotionally fooled, however.

Lets just let it slide. Best to not blow the situation out of proportion.

Sorry for being late but I was just informed about this. So was he joking? Was it his brother? Is he really suicidal?

And from the master of being dead himself!

He is suicidal, it wasn't real, and he orchestrated it himself.

 

[IxLegendz]

Sorry for being late but I was just informed about this. So was he joking? Was it his brother? Is he really suicidal?

He is depressed and suicidal, but it wasn't a joke, more of a way to tell if people cared for him

 

[Jon | Lqzer]

Sorry for being late but I was just informed about this. So was he joking? Was it his brother? Is he really suicidal?

He wasn't serious, but I don't think he was in the right state of mind or actually meant to cause harm by this. He is actually suicidal, but is a misguided soul that just needs some help.

 

[BlazeMaster]

(My name's in the screenshot )

But as I have said before, it's best not to fight fire with fire. Though Ender's deceit is less than desirable in a forum situation, like Blazemaster's alleged death a while ago, the community IS affected by it and WILL react. But now that it has been uncovered, it'd be uncouth of us to make things even worse than they are. There will be a lot of retaliation as a lot of people don't like being that emotionally fooled, however.

Lets just let it slide. Best to not blow the situation out of proportion.





And from the master of being dead himself!

He is suicidal, it wasn't real, and he orchestrated it himself.

Hey Boba! <3 Ok that sums it up. Well in this situation, while what he did was wrong, if he really isn't in a clear state of mind, slandering him would be a mistake. Not sure when this happened, but from what I see it should be put aside and forgotten.

 

[Jon | Lqzer]

Hey Boba! <3 Ok that sums it up. Well in this situation, while what he did was wrong, if he really isn't in a clear state of mind, slandering him would be a mistake. Not sure when this happened, but from what I see it should be put aside and forgotten.

Except it shouldn't be put aside and forgotten. This experience should be used to learn from; we shouldn't put aside our feelings.

 

[BlazeMaster]

Except it shouldn't be put aside and forgotten. This experience should be used to learn from; we shouldn't put aside our feelings.

Well, the community should also understand something, if someone from this lovely forum did die, I'm sure as hell that the family members of that person wouldn't think to post it here, I mean, why would they? Also, how would they get that persons log-in info? If and when this happens again, I think we shouldn't react unless there is hard evidence of that person death/injury. While I understand the grief, it is also kind of naive to believe something like that. Again, I do not really know what is fully going on here so correct me if I am wrong, but that seems to be what I see.

 

[BlueHeron]

Could this be an entire misunderstanding on his families part? Maybe Harold ran away to his friends house and his family thought he committed suicide. Just a theory

Sorry for being such a Conspiracy Keanu

 

[Claps]

Could this be an entire misunderstanding on his families part? Maybe Harold ran away to his friends house and his family thought he committed suicide. Just a theory

Sorry for being such a Conspiracy Keanu

He admitted it and why would his parents assume he killed himself with no proof?

 

[MJM239]

I don't think your understanding. If you are suffering from depression or aren't loved and need attention, you might pull a stunt like this to feel like people care about you. By faking his death and creating a thread, he saw that people actually care about him. However, I do agree that there are other ways to deal with things besides faking your death.

I don't think we should be supporting the fact that he faked a suicide to gather attention from us. You can't word it any other way, he fooled all of us.

There's tons of other ways to prevent suicide, and I honestly don't think MCSG is the best supporter for this subject, and we really can't support him much more since he smashed all character he had in this community into pieces with the click of a thread.

 

[BlueHeron]

I don't think we should be supporting the fact that he faked a suicide to gather attention from us. You can't word it any other way, he fooled all of us.

There's tons of other ways to prevent suicide, and I honestly don't think MCSG is the best supporter for this subject, and we really can't support him much more since he smashed all character he had in this community into pieces with the click of a thread.

Agreed completely. The majority of us are 12-16, and I doubt either of us have any experience with suicidal. The only way to really solve suicide is by getting the person in question to a trained therapist or counselor. We might be able to persuade him to go see one, but how can we guarantee that he'll really go see one? There's really no way to solve Harold's problem unless we have IRL contact with him, which we don't.

Maybe a different community can help him, one geared toward mental health such as http://www.teenhelp.org/forums/f11-depression-suicide/. For all we know, we could be making his suicidal problems worse.

 

[Claps]

I don't think we should be supporting the fact that he faked a suicide to gather attention from us. You can't word it any other way, he fooled all of us.

There's tons of other ways to prevent suicide, and I honestly don't think MCSG is the best supporter for this subject, and we really can't support him much more since he smashed all character he had in this community into pieces with the click of a thread.

I see your point. I just view this differently seeing as I was almost certain he was lying from the second i saw the post.

 

[Joel/MadDawg]

Well said Captain. I've personally had family members deal with depression, and the best way to help them through it is to be as supportive and forgiving as you can. As for the few of you that don't want to support Harold because he lied and tricked the community about something so terrible, just think for a moment. Not supporting him will just make him believe even more that no one cares about him, which will just push him closer to actually acting on these horrible thoughts that he has. Treating a person badly because of a mistake they made only makes them feel bad about themselves and makes them more likely to do the act again. For example, recently in India they have been testing to see if prisoners that are given good meals and living spaces are less likely to commit a crime again. So far, the prisoners that have been in "nice" jails have re-commited crimes far less than criminals that have been kept in traditional prisons. The moral of the story: never treat someone badly because of past actions, because treating them badly just buries them farther into the destructive mindset that they possess.

(Sorry for it being one paragraph, I'm on mobile so I don't really know where paragraph breaks should be )