Global Leaderboards Update: Coming Soon!

[Iambester911]

Col_StaR I just want to make something clean here. You state here that hacking bans will be deranked from the Leaderboards. Does that mean, only hacking bans? If you could, I think we, the people would like to be informed a little more on this topic. Since this can relate to a lot of the community. Some people may have abuse bans or other types of bans besides hacking. Also, if that ban is over a year old, will it affect this also? I know if you have bans that are over a year old, they don't mean much because you have the ability to apply for staff. I'm just curious as to what will happen?

Thanks.

No, he does state that it is "Hacker" bans. This will also (proably) include Bsm, Gamma editing and so on.
Anything that edits the client to make it unfair is known as a "hacked" client

 

[Mr_Gears]

No, he does state that it is "Hacker" bans. This will also (proably) include Bsm, Gamma editing and so on.
Anything that edits the client to make it unfair is known as a "hacked" client

I said he did state... But people maybe worried about other bans. Like I've been reading peoples post and that's a question that comes up a lot.

 

[ChadTheDJ]

Silent Join for Platinums? pfffff whats the point for quantum? ! ...

Quantum will get this as well.

 

[Iambester911]

I said he did state... But people maybe worried about other bans. Like I've been reading peoples post and that's a question that comes up a lot.

Ah, I see. Fair point.

 

[ThePurpleOlive]

So, Will everyone's first game be on the day the leaderboards reset?
I'm confused about the first game and first win.

 

[Col_StaR]

This sounds like a great plan ... How many people will get the ribbon? top 10? 25? 50?

It really depends on how many ribbons we can make, to be honest. I'd like ribbons for #1, #2, #3, top 10, top 100, top 500, and top 1000.

Question: Will the current leaderboards update 1 last time before they become the Legacy Leaderboards? I mean my rank has been 223 for the longest time now, and I should be around 180.. Will the rank #'s be updated for the Legacy Leaderboards?

Yes, we plan to have a final update whenever the Devs plan to. We should totally do an in-game countdown too!

I'd still be surprised if anyone complains though, this is one of the best things that has happened for MCGamer.

I've already shut down a few complaint threads already, most of which were still believing that a stats reset was happening. There have been some threads critical about this no-loss decision as well, and I encourage those people to continue their discussion in the previous discussion thread here: LINK.

Is it November 12th... or December 11th? lol

November 12th, 2014, as stated in the other thread.

Anyone with previous bans will be deranked on the leaderboards? That is so upsetting to me because I was banned falsely, for "hacks" when I wasn't hacking. Col_StaR , please explain more on this deranking when you have Been banned, (unfairly)

Ok so this means cause I was banned for a gamma I don't deserve to be ranked at all? This is complete crap tbh. If you're banned for hacks you are given another chance, so what is the point in that 2nd chance if they now don't get ranked? So all the time, effort bullying I have suffered for playing this game to amount to absolutely nothing. I mean I paid for platinum i'm one of the most know EU players and cause of an incident with 'gamma' I get no credit for getting 2.8k wins with 1/2.4 ratio spending over a month of my crummy life to do this and your going to gt rid of it? It's like your trying to dis miss old veterans.

This is really my only issue with this new update (And no its not only because "I" have been banned before for hacking, I feel many people will also be aggrivated by this point). What are you trying to accomplish with this new point? To make people leave the community? I don't feel I will enjoy MCSG as much "personally" if I am not able to be ranked anymore. I find this quite infuriating actually that you have brought the dread of being deranked from the community as if you don't see me as an idividual or anyone else who has a previous ban. Are we not people to you? Do we not have equality? I have worked so hard to overcome my cheated wins by winning many fair games and more than I won while cheating. Do those fair games not mean anything to you? How do you think this is fair toward the part of the community who have tried to overcome their hacking habits and become "legit" players just to be re-punished over their previous punishment which was a week ban.

We are still working out the details of how the deranking process would work, as the details of what exactly are we considered hacks and how people will dispute it. Stories such as the ones quoted above show a need for a dispute process.

However, the basic idea behind the punishment is something that is quite definitive: players who have previously hacked (and thus gotten some ill-gotten wins) do not deserve to be ranked on the same level as players who have played legitimately. One factor we've found that turns people to hacking is the desire to win; they don't have the skills to play fairly, so they turn to hacking to boost their wins on the leaderboards. We hope to further discourage the use of hacks by hitting that type of hacker where they will feel it most: their leaderboard page. Our intention is to encourage fair competition with all players, and since using hacks will permanently misrepresent one's stats, hackers' stats should not be considered.

Col_StaR I just want to make something clear here. You state here that hacking bans will be deranked from the Leaderboards. Does that mean, only hacking bans? If you could, I think we, the people would like to be informed a little more on this topic. Since this can relate to a lot of the community. Some people may have abuse bans or other types of bans besides hacking. Also, if that ban is over a year old, will it affect this also? I know if you have bans that are over a year old, they don't mean much because you have the ability to apply for staff. I'm just curious as to what will happen?

Thanks.

As stated, we are still working out the details of how the deranking process will work. Currently, it is only planned for hacking offenses, since hacking makes the greatest permanent impact on the leaderboards. I think it'd make a great deterrent against abuse, insults, and other such non-game related offenses, and I feel it'd be highly effective; just like in professional DOTA and LoL circles, the most competitive people are often the most toxic, so hitting them where it hurts would definitely make them think twice before verbally attacking someone. However, the punishment may not fit the crime, which is why we don't mute for hacking.

 

[I_love_desk]

• User who have previous upheld hacking bans on their accounts will be deranked from the Leaderboards. Anyone who has ever played a game through unfair means does not deserve to be ranked amongst those who play fairly.

This may seem all amazing but it's not. Honestly, it just looks like a ploy to say artificially that hackers are being fought, but it is just going to have negative effects. There are a ton of people who used to hack, have cleaned up their act, got a ton of wins legit, e.g. Brandon6895. There are also a ton that have been banned for gamma, which again barely changes anything, and have got 2500+ wins.

I think a much fairer system would be to remove players who have been permabanned for hacking, and only those.

edit: realised something similar had been posted before but eh

 

[smashmaster]

It really depends on how many ribbons we can make, to be honest. I'd like ribbons for #1, #2, #3, top 10, top 100, top 500, and top 1000.


Yes, we plan to have a final update whenever the Devs plan to. We should totally do an in-game countdown too!


I've already shut down a few complaint threads already, most of which were still believing that a stats reset was happening. There have been some threads critical about this no-loss decision as well, and I encourage those people to continue their discussion in the previous discussion thread here: LINK.


November 12th, 2014, as stated in the other thread.




We are still working out the details of how the deranking process would work, as the details of what exactly are we considered hacks and how people will dispute it. Stories such as the ones quoted above show a need for a dispute process.

However, the basic idea behind the punishment is something that is quite definitive: players who have previously hacked (and thus gotten some ill-gotten wins) do not deserve to be ranked on the same level as players who have played legitimately. One factor we've found that turns people to hacking is the desire to win; they don't have the skills to play fairly, so they turn to hacking to boost their wins on the leaderboards. We hope to further discourage the use of hacks by hitting that type of hacker where they will feel it most: their leaderboard page. Our intention is to encourage fair competition with all players, and since using hacks will permanently misrepresent one's stats, hackers' stats should not be considered.


As stated, we are still working out the details of how the deranking process will work. Currently, it is only planned for hacking offenses, since hacking makes the greatest permanent impact on the leaderboards. I think it'd make a great deterrent against abuse, insults, and other such non-game related offenses, and I feel it'd be highly effective; just like in professional DOTA and LoL circles, the most competitive people are often the most toxic, so hitting them where it hurts would definitely make them think twice before verbally attacking someone. However, the punishment may not fit the crime, which is why we don't mute for hacking.

Ok when do you think you will know how many people get a Ribbon ?

Edit: Thanks

 

[smashmaster]

I was banned for hacks in mcsg v1 and i got banned and then ever since ive i never broke the rules and i have worked for over a week straight of my life to get my rank higher in the leader boards and i put my heart nad soul into this game i have had iron donor for more than a year and had 2 gold donors then i hot platnium i put my heart and soul into this game and now i hear my rank will be deleted? it this ends up true i am quitting.

I agree with you I was banned 3 times thank god not for hacking but anyway back to the point people make mistakes and so do mods some people have been banned for hacks when they didnt do it so if you wernt perm banned I dont believe you should lose your rank......

 

[colterisepic]

Col_StaR i was wondering since i wad previously banned for hacking in late mcsg v1 and cleaned up my act ever since. If the people previously banned for hacking reset their stats can they once again be ranked on the leader boards? Plus this was before mcsg v2 came out when mcsg v2 came out i believe all stats were reset so my old game that i was hacking aren't even on my current stats. Please help clarify.

 

[colterisepic]

I agree with you I was banned 3 times thank god not for hacking but anyway back to the point people make mistakes and so do mods some people have been banned for hacks when they didnt do it so if you wernt perm banned I dont believe you should lose your rank......

Preaching to the quire.

 

[smashmaster]

Preaching to the quire.