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darklum3n

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I took this into consideration, and feel as if this is your last resort. The things said to us in the scrims the past couple days were uncalled for, therefore I feel as if me and my clan do not feel as if you deserve our respect or our forgiveness. Also, when you write an apology try not to point fingers, you have no idea what other leaders would have done.
Did you even read it frog?
 

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I took this into consideration, and feel as if this is your last resort. The things said to us in the scrims the past couple days were uncalled for, therefore I feel as if me and my clan do not feel as if you deserve our respect or our forgiveness. Also, when you write an apology try not to point fingers, you have no idea what other leaders would have done.
Don't get me wrong here, but an apology won't be our last resort, darklum3n will probably tell you the same. We're not trying to force you to reckon with us, we're simply apologizing for a mistake we made. That is it.
 

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What is wrong, the man is really trying to apologize, Cut him some slack, and as he said himself, Do your best to "Forgive and Forget."
I think that there are a number of clans who would have reacted in a more appropriate manner. Or perhaps who wouldn't have but themselves in this position in the first place. Respect is an interesting thing, it can be destroyed so quickly.
 

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CLAN WARS 2
React Vs. Evolution 8-0-WON-Round 1(No show)

This is why I feel this way, you may have changed it to a "win/dq" but taking off the battle completely so your clan looks better on the thread is simply immature and disrespectful to me, and my clan. This is why I can not stand this clan, if you're going to apologize make up your mistakes, don't make them worse.
 

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Listen, I know I'm/we're however you want to see it arn't going to instantly regain respect but I want the respect toat least be at zero. And yeah I guess I did change my mind rather quickly but I have been thinking about it most of today & Cf918 is pretty convincing. If you don't want to respect us then fine, don't. But then at least stop the flame it's disrespectful to not only socially and I but to the entire clan who got no decision in this.
 

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I took this into consideration, and feel as if this is your last resort. The things said to us in the scrims the past couple days were uncalled for, therefore I feel as if me and my clan do not feel as if you deserve our respect or our forgiveness. Also, when you write an apology try not to point fingers, you have no idea what other leaders would have done.
I'm not flaming, but pointing out that you had a change of mind extremely fast, which makes me believe that the only reason you apologized was to try and salvage the rest of your reputation. That's all I'm saying.
Both you guys, I spoke to him personally, he really realizes that he made a mistake, the fact that you can't accept his apology, saddens me. When I spoke to him, it was as if he finally conceded to the fact, that he wes wrong, and that he made a monuments mistake, and being a clan owner my self, It really take some sense of maturity and humility, to go ahead and apologize after all that. He could of chose to go down the beaten path, and just say "I am wright, and you are wrong," Like a sill child, but he did not. He went ahead, on the road not taken, and sincerely apologized to all of you. So... Be my guest, and say, "Too little, to late." But this time he really means it. The ability to forgive, really shows something about one, as a person, it demonstrates humility and kindness. On the other hand, not accepting an apology, demonstrates, stubbornness and selfishness. Just, please guys, do me a favor, and respect the man's apology.
An additional note: I, personally lost all respect for react, after what
occurred, I thought that they disrespected both prodigious, and Clan wars staff. However, after speaking with darklumn, I realized, one, that he cared towards his rep, and two, that he was really empathetic. So, I told him, You have one chance, it is better late than never, go ahead and right an apology letter, to all of prod, the staff of clan wars, and the community. That is exactly what he did, and I told him, "If you do that, I guarantee the community has humility, is selfless, and caring, towards you. And I most definitely guarantee, that they will forgive you." But, it looks like I was wrong, You guys just won't budge. Trust me, I understand, he may of ruined your clan wars, and may have caused trouble to many, but I think it is time all of us are mature, and forgive him.
 

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You know what, I thought this through and I have came to a final decision. It was to put up a dq, apologize, and talk to Rielu about those threats. Sadly,frog, I see you joining in on this flame and almost running it. I've never see that high level of either immaturity or impatients. I really thought you were a good leader and that has not change but I feel like you should not be running a clan. I can sound like a hypocrite due to the incidents over the past week. I'd truly want and apologize and want no respect in return. Just wanted for everyone to know. The only way I will put up the dq is if this flame stops. If it can't happend immediately then I won't. #React
 

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Both you guys, I spoke to him personally, he really realizes that he made a mistake, the fact that you can't accept his apology, saddens me. When I spoke to him, it was as if he finally conceded to the fact, that he wes wrong, and that he made a monuments mistake, and being a clan owner my self, It really take some sense of maturity and humility, to go ahead and apologize after all that. He could of chose to go down the beaten path, and just say "I am wright, and you are wrong," Like a sill child, but he did not. He went ahead, on the road not taken, and sincerely apologized to all of you. So... Be my guest, and say, "Too little, to late." But this time he really means it. The ability to forgive, really shows something about one, as a person, it demonstrates humility and kindness. On the other hand, not accepting an apology, demonstrates, stubbornness and selfishness. Just, please guys, do me a favor, and respect the man's apology.
An additional note: I, personally lost all respect for react, after what
occurred, I thought that they disrespected both prodigious, and Clan wars staff. However, after speaking with darklumn, I realized, one, that he cared towards his rep, and two, that he was really empathetic. So, I told him, You have one chance, it is better late than never, go ahead and right an apology letter, to all of prod, the staff of clan wars, and the community. That is exactly what he did, and I told him, "If you do that, I guarantee the community has humility, is selfless, and caring, towards you. And I most definitely guarantee, that they will forgive you." But, it looks like I was wrong, You guys just won't budge. Trust me, I understand, he may of ruined your clan wars, and may have caused trouble to many, but I think it is time all of us are mature, and forgive him.
And I thank you for that, but its easy to just be a bystander and have a opinion. But they are not just ignorant on the forums but in game as well, its worse there.
 

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You know what, I thought this through and I have came to a final decision. It was to put up a dq, apologize, and talk to Rielu about those threats. Sadly, I see you joining in on this flame and almost running it. I've never see that high level of either immaturity or impatients. I really thought you were a good leader and that has not change but I feel like you should not be running a clan. I can sound like a hypocrite due to the incidents over the past week. I'd truly want and apologize and want no respect in return. Just wanted for everyone to know. The only way I will put up the dq is if this flame stops. If it can't happend immediately then I won't. #React
Ugh, why do you open your mouth. I swear, you ask for the flame to stop when you wont just put up the loss. The entire reason there is any type of flame, you have to learn that.
 
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