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I hate to make this post but. Is the community dying...

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I feel that you may have left something out - what about the community?

Yes, there are new players joining all the time. This is true, and will continue to be true for quite some time.
However, anyone who plays on the server for a few days will soon discover that there are quite a large number of people who aren't exactly respectful. While this isn't only on MCSG, the fact that it's worsened so rapidly over the past year is something that sets it apart from other gaming communities.
I realize that there are games with an abundance of players with people who are worse than on MCG. For example, the COD community is infamous for their "12ies", ragers, "squeakers", etc., but that's a game that is intended for mature audiences, and by playing that game they agree that they will be exposed to things like that.
However, Minecraft - and MCGamer in particular - is supposed to be a more friendly, fun-based game. A place where you can make friends, have fun, and not deal with the type of people that you might find on COD.

A lot of parents agree to buy Minecraft for their young teens and children because it's supposed to be a kid-friendly, educational game.
Having an abundance of players who are making the community seem like a place more suited for older teens is rather negative, considering a large portion of the players are quite young and easily influenced by role models and other players. If those other players are prone to raging and trash-talking, the younger kids are either going to be scared off, or they'll be influenced by it and start doing it themselves.

The game isn't dying. The people are.

(I feel like I've left something big out by accident, I'll edit or re-quote later if I remember.)
This is genius. I get the main idea of what you're saying and after reading all of Chad's posts, it seems that (in my opinion) he left out everything about the community which was the main part Sean was talking about.
 

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A lot of parents agree to buy Minecraft for their young teens and children because it's supposed to be a kid-friendly, educational game.
Just put your finger on the problem - It's "kid friendly" until people make it not so. In this case, people choose not to make it so. The swearing, raging and abuse that goes on is similar to COD.
 

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The Community wasnt better or worse "Back then", the thing here is that, "Back then" the community was smaller and with that, the number of assh***s was smaller too, so it was harder to notice.
Its obvious that the more people that join the more it feels like there are more rude people and more hackers, but in reality, assh***s exist everywhere and at any specific time.
 

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I feel that you may have left something out - what about the community?

Yes, there are new players joining all the time. This is true, and will continue to be true for quite some time.
However, anyone who plays on the server for a few days will soon discover that there are quite a large number of people who aren't exactly respectful. While this isn't only on MCSG, the fact that it's worsened so rapidly over the past year is something that sets it apart from other gaming communities.
I realize that there are games with an abundance of players with people who are worse than on MCG. For example, the COD community is infamous for their "12ies", ragers, "squeakers", etc., but that's a game that is intended for mature audiences, and by playing that game they agree that they will be exposed to things like that.
However, Minecraft - and MCGamer in particular - is supposed to be a more friendly, fun-based game. A place where you can make friends, have fun, and not deal with the type of people that you might find on COD.

A lot of parents agree to buy Minecraft for their young teens and children because it's supposed to be a kid-friendly, educational game.
Having an abundance of players who are making the community seem like a place more suited for older teens is rather negative, considering a large portion of the players are quite young and easily influenced by role models and other players. If those other players are prone to raging and trash-talking, the younger kids are either going to be scared off, or they'll be influenced by it and start doing it themselves.

The game isn't dying. The people are.

(I feel like I've left something big out by accident, I'll edit or re-quote later if I remember.)
Yes, there are people who are going to be disrespectful, however, it is impossible to completely get rid of them. We can punish the ones we see, but a new flow of players will come in and start it back up. In addition, almost every Minecraft server is filled with these people. It's almost impossible to get away from them. MCGamer has a pretty good community compared to some other servers. Nevertheless, there is always room for improvement, but that improvement starts with you guys, the community. We, as staff, can attempt to limit the drama and fighting, but without the help of the community, we cannot moderate 634 servers with 142 staff members who cannot moderate all day in all regions.
 

Giggity69Goo

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Just put your finger on the problem - It's "kid friendly" until people make it not so. In this case, people choose not to make it so. The swearing, raging and abuse that goes on is similar to COD.
To add on to that. It is still a kid-friendly game. It's the decision of the player to choose to stay in the crappy community or go somewhere else. This is still a very kid-friendly game, but it's the decision of the player's path as to making the community friendly or not
 

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I feel that you may have left something out - what about the community?

Yes, there are new players joining all the time. This is true, and will continue to be true for quite some time.
However, anyone who plays on the server for a few days will soon discover that there are quite a large number of people who aren't exactly respectful. While this isn't only on MCSG, the fact that it's worsened so rapidly over the past year is something that sets it apart from other gaming communities.
I realize that there are games with an abundance of players with people who are worse than on MCG. For example, the COD community is infamous for their "12ies", ragers, "squeakers", etc., but that's a game that is intended for mature audiences, and by playing that game they agree that they will be exposed to things like that.
However, Minecraft - and MCGamer in particular - is supposed to be a more friendly, fun-based game. A place where you can make friends, have fun, and not deal with the type of people that you might find on COD.

A lot of parents agree to buy Minecraft for their young teens and children because it's supposed to be a kid-friendly, educational game.
Having an abundance of players who are making the community seem like a place more suited for older teens is rather negative, considering a large portion of the players are quite young and easily influenced by role models and other players. If those other players are prone to raging and trash-talking, the younger kids are either going to be scared off, or they'll be influenced by it and start doing it themselves.

The game isn't dying. The people are.

(I feel like I've left something big out by accident, I'll edit or re-quote later if I remember.)
The best (and really only) way to boost the community aspect is to be a good member yourself. There's no way for the staff to make jerks disappear and it's a fool's errand trying, but it works quite nicely to call people out when they're being rude and often times people in the lobby will back you up.
 

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Id also like to add, people are free to give their thoughts on the situation of the community in topics such as its competitive attitude, etc.; but saying as a statement that "the community is dying" does not make sence and does not usually relate to what I mentioned before, despite people actually thinking it does. My time here has proven me this very well by now... I have been reading posts stating "the community is dying", ever since Clank and Team Vareide left the community, and let me tell you, that was a good while back.... but take a look around, the community is more than twice as bigger as it was back then.
Been hearing this "dying" thing for so long now I have as much belief in it as I used to have back people started mentioning it (that is 0%).
 
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I feel that you may have left something out - what about the community?

Yes, there are new players joining all the time. This is true, and will continue to be true for quite some time.
However, anyone who plays on the server for a few days will soon discover that there are quite a large number of people who aren't exactly respectful. While this isn't only on MCSG, the fact that it's worsened so rapidly over the past year is something that sets it apart from other gaming communities.
I realize that there are games with an abundance of players with people who are worse than on MCG. For example, the COD community is infamous for their "12ies", ragers, "squeakers", etc., but that's a game that is intended for mature audiences, and by playing that game they agree that they will be exposed to things like that.
However, Minecraft - and MCGamer in particular - is supposed to be a more friendly, fun-based game. A place where you can make friends, have fun, and not deal with the type of people that you might find on COD.

A lot of parents agree to buy Minecraft for their young teens and children because it's supposed to be a kid-friendly, educational game.
Having an abundance of players who are making the community seem like a place more suited for older teens is rather negative, considering a large portion of the players are quite young and easily influenced by role models and other players. If those other players are prone to raging and trash-talking, the younger kids are either going to be scared off, or they'll be influenced by it and start doing it themselves.

The game isn't dying. The people are.

(I feel like I've left something big out by accident, I'll edit or re-quote later if I remember.)
As a person who has younger siblings who play on the servers i know it can still be a very fun experience for them, what i do for them is simply turn off the chat and play the game for fun, honestly ignoring the hate is the best thing you can possibly do, there is, and always will be nasty people in the community but if we all be the best people we can, i strongly believe the community will get better.

Sorry for all the grammatical errors, posting from an ipod is not easy :p
 

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I feel that you may have left something out - what about the community?
This is genius. I get the main idea of what you're saying and after reading all of Chad's posts, it seems that (in my opinion) he left out everything about the community which was the main part Sean was talking about.
I was referring to the community the entire post. It would be a lie to say that people never changed since 2012, but what I clarified in my post was that people come and go all the time. Lately however we been seeing a bigger amount of old players (players we haven't seen since 2012) returning out of the blue.

The best (and really only) way to boost the community aspect is to be a good member yourself. There's no way for the staff to make jerks disappear and it's a fool's errand trying, but it works quite nicely to call people out when they're being rude and often times people in the lobby will back you up.
Completely agree! We need more people with your mindset.

Completely agree with your idea and sadly most people don't get that concept. Sure, this community may have players moving on, yet overall we are still here and tripled in size since back in 2012. If that is "dying" then they have a odd definition of "dying".

BTW, I wasn't here trying to flame, just making sure you see what I see in my perspective.
 

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Its been a great 2+ years. So many people have come and go.
"Back in the day" People used to be so nice to each other. Remember the times when people used to spectate 60 minute games. Hackers were a rare sight. Clans were a place to make new friends. When we played for fun.


"Nowadays" Its a epidemic, the servers are toxic. We might have new players join everyday but how many of them are turned away by the fact they cannot play a nice game. You join your first game and you get killed by a hacker/ team of 4 try harding to boost wins. This does not look good.

Now lets look at some of the reasons I think MCSG is dying.
This Mini Game has been around for 2 years. People are getting bored and sadly there is not much you can do to improve this.
There is a huge lack of community. Everyone is toxic to each other.
There is an epidemic of hackers.
Overall there is just no community anymore.


As said previous that new people join the sever everyday, but how many of them actually stay around. I bet not to many. Why would they stay. To be killed by a hacker, abused. I don't think so. Someone simply cannot have fun anymore.

Even if we look to the forums now. There is not much quality posts anymore, just complaints. Complaints after complaints.

Staff members get mod now for the rank and popularity status, not to help the community.

The player base will probably keep increasing, but what I mean by mcsg dying is that the community is dying and what's a server without a community.

Unfortunately I think it has gotten so bad now there is no way to turn back.

I guess the community was good while it lasted.

I personally think its the hackers that make us think that the community is dying. I know it would be hard to do, but if the dev's could make some amazing no cheat system, then the community could be classed as reborn (In a way) :)
 

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I do think that MCGamer struggles with many of the same problems as other large communities. Hackers and people who are jerks are pretty common lately. If the devs could come up with some sort of magical solution for hackers, then all would be well. Right now, what we need to do is report more people. Also, hiring more staff always helps (then again, everyone always says that).

I wouldn't say the community is dying. The people in it are very much alive, and those who leave are replaced by three times as many new members. However, the old, small v1 mcsg that many of us loved died and was buried long ago. That's what happens when a server gets big.
 

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