dont play yourself mcsg

[Y]

WHAT!!!

he wants us to autoclick guys!!1

 

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WHAT!!!

he wants us to autoclick guys!!1

Stupid mistake on my part, I'm sorry,

 

[Y]

Stupid mistake on my part, I'm sorry,

thats what makes u human bro dw

 

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thats what makes u human bro dw

Thank's

 

[TheBritishMelonn]

I didn't get around to it no, MCGamer and every server has improvement. The ANIT-Cheat is always getting better, the dev's are always finding ways to fix thing's. I didn't say anything correct, But it doesn't mean it's not getting worked on. The Dev's do a lot for the server, There the backboard of MCGamer, Without them MCGamer wouldn't be here today. And please do not autoclick, It's against the rules.

Dylan here has a good point however, this thread is a hard hitting point. I actually have to agree to this myself and believe that the community needs to expand (Like I've stated quite a few times before). Despite it being a nice community size (which I personally due prefer), the network is dying and hackers and just throwing themselves at us. All this community work is honestly going to waste, not to say that it doesn't help, however it's just not being reinforced upon by the plugins and actions of higher staff. By this, I mean the rules do need a major update in regards to certain situations and needs more of a lee-way to punishments and user history, rather than 'Oh this user has done these offenses, let's just ban the bugga and leave it be.' Some consideration would be nice, despite that being extremely ironic for me to say.

Otherwise, another one of my concerns (despite what has been done) is that the MCGamer Network isn't pushing promotions and those who certainly do deserve it. To expand a community, a community needs an obvious base to form on, which at the moment is quite small in terms of leadership and high ranking staff.

Example:
Owner(s) > Admins x 5> Sr. Mods x 10 > Moderators x 100 > Players ~3000
Owner(s) > Admins x 10 > Sr. Mods x 50 > Moderators x 250 > Players ~ 6000

I know that's an extreme example however I've seen it before and it's sadly true. The best part of having staff is that everything gets dealt with and more people will stay and in the server and thus the population will grow.

Yannick (Once again congrats on admin, I do look up to you)
Ceroria (Amazing Sr. Mod, couldn't of asked for someone better to talk to)
TotalDramaTony (^ Just like Ceroria)
GoontherMC (Deserves mod of the month)
Equalitee (Well, you know it all )
Dammitdeanne (Btw Deanne, take care of her)
arsenalfcgunners (Why aren't you Sr.Mod yet?)
(Probs missing a few)

You lot are my fams, I look up to a lot of the staff here, I hope I can trust you for this c:

 

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Dylan here has a good point however, this thread is a hard hitting point. I actually have to agree to this myself and believe that the community needs to expand (Like I've stated quite a few times before). Despite it being a nice community size (which I personally due prefer), the network is dying and hackers and just throwing themselves at us. All this community work is honestly going to waste, not to say that it doesn't help, however it's just not being reinforced upon by the plugins and actions of higher staff. By this, I mean the rules do need a major update in regards to certain situations and needs more of a lee-way to punishments and user history, rather than 'Oh this user has done these offenses, let's just ban the bugga and leave it be.' Some consideration would be nice, despite that being extremely ironic for me to say.

Otherwise, another one of my concerns (despite what has been done) is that the MCGamer Network isn't pushing promotions and those who certainly do deserve it. To expand a community, a community needs an obvious base to form on, which at the moment is quite small in terms of leadership and high ranking staff.

Example:
Owner(s) > Admins x 5> Sr. Mods x 10 > Moderators x 100 > Players ~3000
Owner(s) > Admins x 10 > Sr. Mods x 50 > Moderators x 250 > Players ~ 6000

I know that's an extreme example however I've seen it before and it's sadly true. The best part of having staff is that everything gets dealt with and more people will stay and in the server and thus the population will grow.

Yannick (Once again congrats on admin, I do look up to you)
Ceroria (Amazing Sr. Mod, couldn't of asked for someone better to talk to)
TotalDramaTony (^ Just like Ceroria)
GoontherMC (Deserves mod of the month)
Equalitee (Well, you know it all )
Dammitdeanne (Btw Deanne, take care of her)
arsenalfcgunners (Why aren't you Sr.Mod yet?)
(Probs missing a few)

You lot are my fams, I look up to a lot of the staff here, I hope I can trust you for this c:

Hey there, Thank's for writing this out and ill respond to it for sure

Thank's for saying that I have good points about this thread. I don't deal or have anything with promotions so I really can't say much. Anyways, you stated the network is dying, If you believe so, believe in what you think. As you stated problems with plugins and hackers Dev's got our backs, they are looking what's best for the server and I feel like there doing a pretty good job at it. You stated the rules need a major update, Can you give me some examples? Slide in my Dms. As I said before promotions I can't really say anything about it, sorry.

 

[TheBritishMelonn]

Hey there, Thank's for writing this out and ill respond to it for sure

Thank's for saying that I have good points about this thread. I don't deal or have anything with promotions so I really can't say much. Anyways, you stated the network is dying, If you believe so, believe in what you think. As you stated problems with plugins and hackers Dev's got our backs, they are looking what's best for the server and I feel like there doing a pretty good job at it. You stated the rules need a major update, Can you give me some examples? Slide in my Dms. As I said before promotions I can't really say anything about it, sorry.

Oh no worries, mate!

I agree with you on pretty much everything you've said. I understand that the DEVs and the Owner(s) are very busy and do their utmost best however there's only X amount of DEVs that can work on a plugin at a time due to their personal lives. **Staff are people to, and staff do have opinions, personalities, and beliefs. People also need to respect that**

Otherwise with what you said:
I wasn't stating that towards you, I was stating that for everyone to read ^-^
Honestly, it comes to a time where you guys need to stop defending and start changing. I remember back in the days when there were way over the amount of players that we have on a daily basis today (Years ago), otherwise there's no need for you to be sorry at all xD Really.
As for the rules, the last time they had been edited (Updated) was when exactly? I can't find out at all for a specific date sadly. A lot of the rules need a description update, and some of the hacker rules should be cut down and generalized now. No one ever uses half of the hacks on that list, it also wouldn't matter if they did or not, they're hacking, period.
An example of this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/171Ns2a1SUmGLTxooXlL5LMcLIKDy__AEBX_ijqyLCO8/edit#gid=0

Half the list is usually generalized to:
" Speed hacks/ no slow down"
"Aimbot"
"Kill aura"
"Rapid fire bow"
etc etc...

Again with the situation with looking at the behavior of the rule breakers when it comes to higher degrees of bans and certain classifications of such. There's too much to write on here, so lets just leave it for another time.

 

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Oh no worries, mate!

I agree with you on pretty much everything you've said. I understand that the DEVs and the Owner(s) are very busy and do their utmost best however there's only X amount of DEVs that can work on a plugin at a time due to their personal lives. **Staff are people to, and staff do have opinions, personalities, and beliefs. People also need to respect that**

Otherwise with what you said:
I wasn't stating that towards you, I was stating that for everyone to read ^-^
Honestly, it comes to a time where you guys need to stop defending and start changing. I remember back in the days when there were way over the amount of players that we have on a daily basis today (Years ago), otherwise there's no need for you to be sorry at all xD Really.
As for the rules, the last time they had been edited (Updated) was when exactly? I can't find out at all for a specific date sadly. A lot of the rules need a description update, and some of the hacker rules should be cut down and generalized now. No one ever uses half of the hacks on that list, it also wouldn't matter if they did or not, they're hacking, period.
An example of this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/171Ns2a1SUmGLTxooXlL5LMcLIKDy__AEBX_ijqyLCO8/edit#gid=0

Half the list is usually generalized to:
" Speed hacks/ no slow down"
"Aimbot"
"Kill aura"
"Rapid fire bow"
etc etc...

Again with the situation with looking at the behavior of the rule breakers when it comes to higher degrees of bans and certain classifications of such. There's too much to write on here, so lets just leave it for another time.

Hey there, Thank's for the stuff i asked for but just wanted to talk about one thing you stated. "Honestly, it comes to a time where you guys need to stop defending and start changing" I was not trying to defend By stating facts. Sorry if you though it in the wrong way.

 

[TheBritishMelonn]

Hey there, Thank's for the stuff i asked for but just wanted to talk about one thing you stated. "Honestly, it comes to a time where you guys need to stop defending and start changing" I was not trying to defend By stating facts. Sorry if you though it in the wrong way.

No no, not you personally. Just staff in general. Someone did state how staff said the server was "perfect" and kept saying statements along those lines. I just wanted to say how we all need to move past this and look at what's actually wrong and what we actually need to do to fix the situations rather that having staff defending the server 24/7 and not supporting change and what the community needs as well as wants.

 

[HomeGoods]

Hey there! I've just deleted one or two posts containing flame- just please refrain from doing this.

 

[User03958]

Being fixed

Being fixed

Hey there, Thank's for writing this out and ill respond to it for sure

Thank's for saying that I have good points about this thread. I don't deal or have anything with promotions so I really can't say much. Anyways, you stated the network is dying, If you believe so, believe in what you think. As you stated problems with plugins and hackers Dev's got our backs, they are looking what's best for the server and I feel like there doing a pretty good job at it. You stated the rules need a major update, Can you give me some examples? Slide in my Dms. As I said before promotions I can't really say anything about it, sorry.

Hey there, Thank's for the stuff i asked for but just wanted to talk about one thing you stated. "Honestly, it comes to a time where you guys need to stop defending and start changing" I was not trying to defend By stating facts. Sorry if you though it in the wrong way.

All you staff members are in a state of denial.

One of the main things that upsets me about mcsg is the clear lack of thought gone into strategy. At the moment MCSG is in danger of fading further into irrelevance than it already has, because badlion's updated SG is about to come out, and when it does people are gonna be asking themselves: what reasons do I have for playing on MCSG when I could be playing on badlion instead?

In order for the playerbase not to shrink further than it has already, MCSG (as opposed to mcgamer) needs to focus on its niche(s). Trying to turn MCSG into a minigames server was so obviously going to fail because servers like mineplex and hypixel already have that stuff nailed down, and uhc worlds is exactly the same - mcsg thinking they can ride the wave of popularity those gamemodes have experienced when in reality uhc worlds offers absolutely nothing over what can be found on badlion, reddit, hypixel etc. What MCSG has going for it is as follows:

SG plugin (ignoring the glitches)

Clan community - despite how clans have been alienated by mcsg staff since the beginning of the server through false promises, dubious bans etc (let's not forget dave ripping off soul's rules and trying to force everyone to abide by them), we still have the largest sg clan community of any server.

In order to capitalise on these niches, mcsg needs to rebrand itself to an sg-focused server. Dropping mcgamer and returning to MCSG would be the ultimate statement of intent and would likely stir the interest of many of the lost players. Peripheral gamemodes should all be discontinued as all they really do is waste servers and divert attention away from the main attraction. Battlegrounds should be rebranded as an SG kit FFA, and as a longer term project I believe MCSG should introduce a duels server with ranked ladders etc. In the short term, THERE NEEDS TO BE A GOOD ANTICHEAT. MCSG has the worst problem with cheaters out of any server, and whatever XAC is doing right now simply doesn't cut it. A horrific portion of the community cheat and nothing is being done to stop them. Once MCSG has a decent anticheat, the higher staff need to get in contact with voices from the clan community (which I know is gradually beginning to happen already) to set about bringing more official tournaments, features and events and ultimately nurture the stagnant competitive scene.

If all this were to happen, the server would have a much clearer focus and would likely establish itself as the go-to SG server it was in the past.

I agree 100% but it is getting to a point where these types of posts appear daily yet nothing is changing. The staff either deny or sugarcoat your points for a reason unknown to us. If we want MCSG to change we are going to need to do something that they can't ignore.

 

[GeckoGoggals]

Really interesting post, I haven't read the comments yet, but here's my initial take on it:

MCGamer has really headed in the right direction I think. The 'refocus' back in 2015 was actually a good idea looking back on it. They removed all the buggy minigames, and decided to focus on others. I think they should actually continue and do this again, removing UHC Worlds and ZedChase, because they're seriously just sitting there taking up space.

As for the anticheat, they're also taking steps in the right direction there too. Until the addition of CAmadeusa, there were only 2 developers. Not NEAR enough to make an anticheat like the ones other servers have. Since they opened developer applications, we should hopefully get some new developers to improve that anticheat. I see some good things in the future for this.

As for making this the go-to SG server of the past, I just don't know. Things aren't the way they were in 2013-14 where we held all the pieces. First of all, the community is NOT bought in to the system. That's the worst part I think. It doesn't matter how things are run, if the members don't buy in, it doesn't work. If we can get the community on board with the plan, whatever that may be, things should start going towards the upside. I think the main part here will be good communication between the staff (especially the Sr Staff and Administration) and the community. If I were Chad, what I would do is gather our plan, make an in-depth post about what it is, and ask the community to get on board with us. It'd make the community feel better about where we're going, and in turn take some pressure off the staff team.