My thoughts on Demon’s Breeze / Better Sprint Mod

[gvandy11]

Exactly... There are tons of ways in which BSM can be used as a practicality and it doesn't give any advantage over the new sprint, but according to the staff it still needs to be banned because it allows you to do things which have nothing to do with PvP e.g. being able to toggle crouch. Silly.

Having to hold a key then to just press one in 1.7 is nothing to just sprinting without pressing anything but W BSM does give a advantage over all.

 

[mathijs3011]

Demons breeze most come back, but bsm? 1.7 is better then bsm so why should you want it?

 

[Gunnishone]

In my opinion Demon's Breeze should come back and BSM should stay banned.

 

[Chobski]

If I am not mistaken, you can just use the Sprint key as shift and turn on sticky keys if you don't want to hold down the button.

 

[jonnysurvives]

Demons breeze most come back, but bsm? 1.7 is better then bsm so why should you want it?

If there's no reason not to allow it, then why not allow it? I also don't want the inconvenience of keeping a weight on my keyboard.

BSM allows you to sprint in any direction, not just forwards.

ChadTheDJ knows what he's doing.

From the BSM forum page: 'and sprinting in all directions is disabled by default, but you can enable it on your server'.

You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Chobski]

If there's no reason not to allow it, then why not allow it? I also don't want the inconvenience of keeping a weight on my keyboard.

From the BSM forum page: 'and sprinting in all directions is disabled by default, but you can enable it on your server'.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Please can we put an end to all this controversy about BSM, it is disabled on our servers because it is a mod that affects gameplay. BSM is not on the servers because there is no need for it with the implementation of 1.7 sprint. As far as the sprint key goes I mentioned above the solution although it is not meant to be tampered with. The idea with the Survival Games is to keep it as "Vanilla" as possible to avoid cheaters and hackers. It would be convenient if no one posted anymore about the BSM side of the thread. Last thing - if you don't like MCSG how it is, then don't play it. The majority of people like the no hack feature of MCSG that the Hive and other servers don't offer.
#bringbackdemon'sbreeze

 

[jonnysurvives]

Please can we put an end to all this controversy about BSM, it is disabled on our servers because it is a mod that affects gameplay. BSM is not on the servers because there is no need for it with the implementation of 1.7 sprint. As far as the sprint key goes I mentioned above the solution although it is not meant to be tampered with. The idea with the Survival Games is to keep it as "Vanilla" as possible to avoid cheaters and hackers. It would be convenient if no one posted anymore about the BSM side of the thread. Last thing - if you don't like MCSG how it is, then don't play it. The majority of people like the no hack feature of MCSG that the Hive and other servers don't offer.
#bringbackdemon'sbreeze

I think it's good to discuss both the issues- and it's my thread after all.

Keeping things vanilla is a lot better of an argument than that it lets you sprint backwards and sideways, but if we really wanted to keep things as vanilla as possible we should ban optifine too. Both optifine and BSM offer no substantive in-game advantage (aside from crouching in containers in BSM and clear water and no fog in optifine), but both instead make things more practical for the user, i.e. not having to use a weight or hold down the sprint key with BSM and having better frames and more options for optimising your game with optifine.

 

[Chobski]

I think it's good to discuss both the issues- and it's my thread after all.

Keeping things vanilla is a lot better of an argument than that it lets you sprint backwards and sideways, but if we really wanted to keep things as vanilla as possible we should ban optifine too. Both optifine and BSM offer no substantive in-game advantage (aside from crouching in containers in BSM and clear water and no fog in optifine), but both instead make things more practical for the user, i.e. not having to use a weight or hold down the sprint key with BSM and having better frames and more options for optimising your game with optifine.

Optifine does not affect the actual mechanics of the game apart from the zoom, where as BSM obviously does. Also there is no controversy over Optifine (who would want to ban Optifine anyway?) because almost everyone uses it and could under certain circumstances be treated as vanilla considering how widely it is used. You can discuss BSM, I can't stop you but I think that there is no argument for it, it is not needed.

 

[jonnysurvives]

Optifine does not affect the actual mechanics of the game apart from the zoom, where as BSM obviously does. Also there is no controversy over Optifine (who would want to ban Optifine anyway?) because almost everyone uses it and could under certain circumstances be treated as vanilla considering how widely it is used. You can discuss BSM, I can't stop you but I think that there is no argument for it, it is not needed.

But BSM doesn't affect in-game mechanics apart from the sneak function, and even that's not as useful as zoom, clear water and seeing people in unloaded chunks. We just allow optifine because it's undetectable and makes for a much better playing experience.

 

[KrunchieKiller07]

Give this man a medal; Couldn't have said it any better.

GIVE THIS MAN A COOKIE ACTUALLY!

 

[Chobski]

But BSM doesn't affect in-game mechanics apart from the sneak function, and even that's not as useful as zoom, clear water and seeing people in unloaded chunks. We just allow optifine because it's undetectable and makes for a much better playing experience.

I suppose. Why do we even need BSM if we have 1.7 is what everyone is asking?

 

[reven86]

Staff is actually very aware that bsm does not allow you to sprintbackwards/sidewards in multiplayer. It has been discussed many times. So I am not sure where you got that information from.

Bsm is banned for one simple reason right now.. because it allows players to use 1.6.4 and bsm at the same time as optifine. It allows you to get all the advantages of new sprint on 1.7 without the lag of not having optifine. Staff has said it themselves that after bsm comes out for 1.7, they will re-look BSM and consider allowing bsm as long as it doesn't allow any added features that it didn't have in the past.

This however, will not happen at all probably until Mcsg itself goes SOLO for 1.7 and optifine comes out for 1.7. My one issue is.. why are people complaining so much about bsm being banned.. when they can simply just use 1.7.. and its pretty much already there for them... I don't get why it's making everyone rage... cept for those who are on 1.6.4 and wanting to cheat and use bsm..

As far as demons breeze.. I am actually very upset that this map is gone.. along with most others. The best thing we can all do is just vote in the poll section. That is the only chance we have.