The God Debate v2

[Clocks]

I am going to say this right now but I might be wrong, I am pretty sure cells can not be made from random chemicals. To be honest, cells might not even be made from chemicals at all. Also...if God exists I think a lot of us here will be burning by the end of it.

I don't think chemical is the right word (if I remember correctly from Chemistry). Cell are made up of proteins, carbohydrates, and lipids(fats). Proteins are made up of amino acids while carbohydrates are made up of monosaccharides.

 

[RiskIt]

Also I've done quite a bit of research about this because of my beliefs and Charles Darwin said before he died "If my theory can not be proven within 100 years then it is false" Those are not his exact words but they are along those lines. Because animals have similar bone structures does not automatically mean that they all came from each other. A dog has similar bone structures to humans....but we are not very similar to dogs. I think that there should be more of a basis than fossils and carbon dating that is in fact very inaccurate.

 

[Clocks]

Before I leave I want to say whether you are religious or not I respect everyone's beliefs. Do what makes you happy and drives you to become a better person! Night everyone!

 

[boboy1999]

Ill take theses quotes from the bible that you can find in my original response to this thread.

Nothing better than nice quotes from the bible.

"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother ... Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city ... And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die."
Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13. "First, Thou shalt not lie with a man, as with a woman: it is abomination. Second, If a man lie with a man, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

They found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. ... And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones.... And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses. Numbers 15:32-56

 

[Glade_OS]

*snacks on even more popcorn* I am going to have endless entertainment from this aren't I

 

[RiskIt]

So inorder for you believe in evolution you want me to create life in front of you and you will believe? What? You want me to do something that happened billions of years ago in front of you? *Scratches head in confusion*


What proof is there for Noah's arch? I would love to see it.
Religion does say you can be bad and still go to heaven. So what is religion teaching us?
I can kill someone ask for forgiveness from God and I go to heaven
or
I don't believe in God and do only good things and I go to hell

Does that make any sense and teach any good morality?

http://www.viewzone.com/noahx.html Here is one of many links referring to the Ark. Also I have heard questions like yours before. Like do babies go to hell because they didn't believe. Then you say "That's not fair they're babies." I believe that you only will go to hell if you have been exposed to Jesus and God and have chosen to reject it although if you have truly never had the opportunity to learn of God then you would not go to hell. That's the way I see it at least.

 

[Glade_OS]

Ill take theses quotes from the bible that you can find in my original response to this thread.

Nothing better than nice quotes from the bible.

"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother ... Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city ... And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die."
Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13. "First, Thou shalt not lie with a man, as with a woman: it is abomination. Second, If a man lie with a man, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

They found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. ... And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones.... And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses. Numbers 15:32-56

As I mentioned, I think it is okay to support your religion but do not fully support it since sometimes your religion might have stuff like this in it :3

 

[ChibiGoose]

http://www.viewzone.com/noahx.html Here is one of many links referring to the Ark. Also I have heard questions like yours before. Like do babies go to hell because they didn't believe. Then you say "That's not fair they're babies." I believe that you only will go to hell if you have been exposed to Jesus and God and have chosen to reject it although if you have truly never had the opportunity to learn of God then you would not go to hell. That's the way I see it at least.

I'm Christian and I don't even believe in hell, how could a God that loves us so much condem us to endless suffering ;-;

 

[Clocks]

Also I've done quite a bit of research about this because of my beliefs and Charles Darwin said before he died "If my theory can not be proven within 100 years then it is false" Those are not his exact words but they are along those lines. Because animals have similar bone structures does not automatically mean that they all came from each other. A dog has similar bone structures to humans....but we are not very similar to dogs. I think that there should be more of a basis than fossils and carbon dating that is in fact very inaccurate.

I know I said I was leaving in the last post but I had to answer this one. The birds weren't seen as similar do to their bone structure but because their genetic code was extremely similar and got to the point were it wasn't similar enough for them to breed causing them to be divergent species.

 

[4non]

I believe in God, but I don't associate myself with any branch of religion.
The way I see things, the Bible just doesn't add up with today's standards.
It's common knowledge that the earliest men were from the Olduvai Gorge, yet most Bible commentators say that the Garden of Eden, containing the two earliest humans, existed somewhere in the Middle East.
Besides for that, there's far too many things that simply don't seem realistic (and have no proof or even witness statements to back it up), such as the story of Noah's Ark etc.
However, I do believe that something created the universe.

 

[RiskIt]

Ill take theses quotes from the bible that you can find in my original response to this thread.

Nothing better than nice quotes from the bible.

"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother ... Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city ... And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die."
Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13. "First, Thou shalt not lie with a man, as with a woman: it is abomination. Second, If a man lie with a man, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

They found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. ... And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones.... And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses. Numbers 15:32-56

I know it's in the Bible, but those specific chapters are from the first 5 books of the Bible also referred to as the Torah. (The Jewish Bible) I am Christian which may not seem different but the base of my beliefs revolves around the New Testament, not saying that the Old Testament is irrelevant, It was revised though in the New Testament and is more severe and extreme.

 

[Glade_OS]

I'm Christian and I don't even believe in hell, how could a God that loves us so much condem us to endless suffering ;-;

Well...we have people that would just cause trouble in Heaven so that is probably why they are in Hell :3