The Mods Quitting

[Fox]

lol they do seem to have "very high standards" for mods these days. It seems like in order to be a mod, you have to go to like community events and whatnot. I've recorded nearly 800 hacker vids and have no previous bans, yet I get denied for the reason "you need to do more for the community" lol. Not sure what else I can do.

They don't understand that some people just can't go to community events when they schedule them 99% of the time on the weekend and some people have jobs that prevent them from going to them l3l.

Dunno, bud. I personally think Admins and Sr. staff can be biased sometimes with players such as you. Not the first case that I've seen a player like you get denied with a foolish excuse. Heck, you even used to be staff in this servers before.

I feel that we need to focus in quality, not quantity. From my eyes, I see people with no experience and knowledge whatsoever get accepted for mod and see people with experience get denied. Not sure what in the world is MCGamer thinking, but that needs to be changed. I feel that somehow staff is really biased and are very subjective to certain people; idek.

guys, anyone can get mod it's easy now, as long as u have no bans ur good to go!!!

You can even have bans and apply for mod. As long as you haven't been banned and been clean for a whole year, you can apply for mod.

I actually considered that once, but if they did an IP check and found out it was me, I'd prob get banned lol.

Yup! Myself and many others have thought of the same too xD
I don't plan on applying for staff ever, but I have thought of the possibilities before. #Kosmishv2.

 

[reven86]

Dunno, bud. I personally think Admins and Sr. staff can be biased sometimes with players such as you. Not the first case that I've seen a player like you get denied with a foolish excuse. Heck, you even used to be staff in this servers before.

I feel that we need to focus in quality, not quantity. From my eyes, I see people with no experience and knowledge whatsoever get accepted for mod and see people with experience get denied. Not sure what in the world is MCGamer thinking, but that needs to be changed. I feel that somehow staff is really biased and are very subjective to certain people; idek.

for sure. Not sure what it is about me, but there has to be something other than " you haven't done enough for the community" when that is really a load of crap lol.

 

[Fox]

for sure. Not sure what it is about me, but there has to be something other than " you haven't done enough for the community" when that is really a load of crap lol.

My motto has always been: You don't need to be staff to help.
Its true. Staff records, and submits the evidence of people hacking, bypassing the filter, harassing, targeting, etc; normal users can do that too. I do understand that all this can be easier if you're staff, but you can still help without committing to a staff position.

Though, It's definitely sad to not get recognized for your work. Might have 800+ reports done, all successful, yet just because you weren't staff no one recognizes you — at least I feel that way.

 

[sasha001122]

People come and go, people change. The moderators that quit maybe had stuff to do in real life, you never know. Well at least MCSG will be getting new moderators soon! Be excited for that

 

[reven86]

My motto has always been: You don't need to be staff to help.
Its true. Staff records, and submits the evidence of people hacking, bypassing the filter, harassing, targeting, etc; normal users can do that too. I do understand that all this can be easier if you're staff, but you can still help without committing to a staff position.

Though, It's definitely sad to not get recognized for your work. Might have 800+ reports done, all successful, yet just because you weren't staff no one recognizes you — at least I feel that way.

I don't care about recognition lol. I just care that it seems like everytime I need staff to help with a hacker, I get no respond when I poke them on ts, or they respond like 10 minutes later. Or i'll post a report abuse, but yet the hacker that I reported keeps playing til they finally look at the report abuse hours later. I just want the ability to ban a hacker when I see them.

When I was staff I would leave the game I was in or drop whatever I was doing to help catch a hacker. Most staff was like that back then. Only a handful are like that now. I can't tell you how many countless times I have gotten a " I can't help right now, have another staff member help you" or no respond at all xD. It gets frustrating.

 

[Fox]

I don't care about recognition lol. I just care that it seems like everytime I need staff to help with a hacker, I get no respond when I poke them on ts, or they respond like 10 minutes later. Or i'll post a report abuse, but yet the hacker that I reported keeps playing til they finally look at the report abuse hours later. I just want the ability to ban a hacker when I see them.

When I was staff I would leave the game I was in or drop whatever I was doing to help catch a hacker. Most staff was like that back then. Only a handful are like that now. I can't tell you how many countless times I have gotten a " I can't help right now, have another staff member help you" or no respond at all xD. It gets frustrating.

I know, that's what I meant by being staff makes things easier —just said it without offending anyone xD
Though, its all very true: mods give 0 fu— when you poke them. I'd apply for mod, but I don't want to join the dark side.

 

[Trilexium]

People leave for their own reasons. That's all there is to it. It would be rather.. disappointing, to see a Mod resign because they didn't get Sr. Mod.

It also appears that the community can never be satisfied with the staff- hire too many and the complaint of the quality of our mods arises- hire too little and people complain about there not being enough staff. It's a battle that the staff team will pretty much always come off second best in.

As much as I hate to say it, it's not as easy for our staff team to instantly fit the community's desires as everyone thinks it would be- a staff reform would perhaps be an alright idea to achieve this, but this would involve the review and investigation into over 100 mods. It's a lot of work, not something that can be done with a moment's notice. As independent staff members, most of us are flexible enough- but the staff team as a whole cannot be flexible like singular staff members.

You're more than welcome to apply- in fact we encourage it- but that's your choice. I also noticed some of you have some rather.. unfortunate circumstances around your applications. Being staff member only commits you to getting evidence of rule breakers and being the one who deals with the appropriate actions that need to be taken in a specific situation. Players can do the same- except players can choose to opt out of getting evidence at any time and don't have the power necessary to appropriately deal with a rule breaker.

tl;dr people leave for their own reasons, people are never happy with the staff, it's hard for us to fit the community's ideals and players are more similar to mods than you'd think

 

[Fox]

The thing is, I'm not the most active of players (community events wise), but earlier this morning I got to pending. So I think all they go by is the quality of your application.

And do you think someone who has reported 800 players and was ex-staff doesn't knows how to write an application?

 

[RishSA|Imaboss2414]

And do you think someone who has reported 800 players and was ex-staff doesn't knows how to write an application?

It is a lot harder for ex-staff to become moderator again. Trust me on this, I've seen a lot of wonderful mods resign, and a few weeks later, re-apply, and can't seem to get into the interview stage. For someone like Reven who has contributed a lot to the community, I would probably recommend him to talk to some of the sr.mods on the teamspeak about the situation. Also the application process & grading have gotten a lot harder. Some of the sr.staff's moderator applications would be denied by them if they were submitted right now. It's become a lot harder to get moderator for some reason, and they want both quality and quantity.

 

[Fox]

It also appears that the community can never be satisfied with the staff- hire too many and the complaint of the quality of our mods arises- hire too little and people complain about there not being enough staff. It's a battle that the staff team will pretty much always come off second best in.

My only complain is that they deny people with more experience and accept people with no experience at all.

Lets put it this way:

1. Accept someone with 1,000 messages on the forums, good standards, helps moderately and has a decent amount of people reported.
2. Or
3. Accept someone with 1-2 messages on the forums —who is he? idk— shows no experience at helping or and modalities; no etiquette at all.

Who would you take?

It is a lot harder for ex-staff to become moderator again. Trust me on this, I've seen a lot of wonderful mods resign, and a few weeks later, re-apply, and can't seem to get into the interview stage. For someone like Reven who has contributed a lot to the community, I would probably recommend him to talk to some of the sr.mods on the teamspeak about the situation. Also the application process & grading have gotten a lot harder. Some of the sr.staff's moderator applications would be denied by them if they were submitted right now. It's become a lot harder to get moderator for some reason, and they want both quality and quantity.

Why does an ex-staff have to talk to Sr. Staff? Excuse me, but all players are supposed to be treated the "same" and all have the same opportunities —no need to even ask sr. staff personally.

 

[RishSA|Imaboss2414]

My only complain is that they deny people with more experience and accept people with no experience at all.

Lets put it this way:

1. Accept someone with 1,000 messages on the forums, good standards, helps moderately and has a decent amount of people reported.
2. Or
3. Accept someone with 1-2 messages on the forums —who is he? idk— shows no experience at helping or and modalities; no etiquette at all.

Who would you take?



Why does an ex-staff have to talk to Sr. Staff? Excuse me, but all players are supposed to be treated the "same" and all have the same opportunities —no need to even ask sr. staff personally.

It doesn't exactly work like that. I had plenty of experience reporting hackers and things of that nature, and I still got declined. Why? My application didn't meet their standards. It's more so of the application while these things are just sort of a cherry on the top. And Yes, all players are treated the same. In fact I recommend everyone who was declined to go ask the sr.staff why. (In my original statement, I wasn't implying just ex-staff.) I mean let's face it. Asking for the sr.staff's advice not only shows you are determined, but it gives you advice to work off of.

 

[kawaiitravii]

And do you think someone who has reported 800 players and was ex-staff doesn't knows how to write an application?

It's possible, an abuse report is much shorter than an application. Most detailed applications are around 600-1000 while an abuse report can maybe max out at around at 300. They also go by the quality of your writing, which is not necessarily extremely important. but if you have a lot of spelling and grammatical errors it can sway the application reader to one side or another. If an abuse report is poorly written I doubt this will affect the banning of the hacker, rule-breaker, etc.