Ah yes, a classic case of dogmatization. Are you even aware of how the staff and the banning process works? No one is banned without reason.
> Justl said one word in chat but tomahawk got butthurt over it and requested Chad permban him which was successful.
I can assure you that didn't happen that way. If they got permabanned it was because they had prior offenses. VIPs can't just request people be banned. Well, they can, but those are called report abuses and anyone can do those.
> Also, how does a permban give someone an overall lasting negative impression
Because it shows you are unable to respect the rules.
> For example, you aren't banned but I've never even heard of you and I don't expect that many people have,
I've never once heard of you. Your point is illogical.
> In contrast, everyone loves justltheworst, PhiIIY67, etc
Sure, they had friends. So does everybody. They broke the rules and got punished. They just had people who were vocal about it.
> Regardless of what you say, it's incorrect,
This is a fallacy known as dogmatism, which means forcing your opinion on others regardless of proof, and dismissing others claim, again, without proof. You only know the banned players' stories, you do not know the staff's side of things. Don't be so quick to dismiss a staff member's stance.
> and I can guarantee you 90% of the community agrees (not including staff ofc.)
Clearly you have asked every single one of the 2.75 million people who have played on the servers. Do not instantly assume the entire community will back you up.
I don't mean to sound offending or rude, but let me please clarify this.
I was there at the scene, and since I am justls friend, I may seem biased.
#1 Lively, you weren't even there. I don't think you should be judging the situation off the evidence alone. It takes someone who saw the whole conversation between the multiple persons that were arguing to judge the ban verdict.
#2 It can be seen that Justl broke the rules, but it can also be seen that he didnt. The only way someone could interpret the scene as Justl abusing Tomahawk was by using his avatar on a private ts as evidence, which shouldn't be happening. Also, even if it was abuse, the fact that he got permabanned over such miniscule abuse (for example, maybe the ban should have been 1 day, or a week, not a permaban, and if im not mistaken, Justl only had one previous ban) is confusing, as how is abuse over a VIP worse than abusing a regular person. Is this showing that VIPs are greater than regular people in general (This point might not make sense).
#3 You talk about the community agreeing with the bans. May I see the poll of which 90% of this community agreed that these (maybe all I didn't understand the point) should be banned?
#4 All we ask for is for someone (like Justl) to be awarded for his achievements. So what if he was banned? The point is he helped out the clan community before, and he deserves to be awarded for such. I know that Justl doesn't care about mcsg anymore, and that even if he got the award he wouldn't know or for that fact care. But it still is nice to see someone awarded for their achievements.
Now, I know this post may (or probably) will be deleted, as this is insulting staff (which again, I apologize, this is the one topic that I will try and disagree with the staff with, and I am sorry for that), and if they do, I wouldn't care. I wanted to get my thoughts on this topic out, and if people see it great. If people don't see it, great.
Also, just for everyone's knowledge, I am the last officer of Forgotten who still plays minecraft. Js, vote for me.