Another MCSG rule needs changing! (Item frames)

[arsenal]

So here you have it, my second rant about MCG's rules in the second consecutive day. Yesterday, as many of you know who read the thread, I wrote a thread asking changes to the no trolling rule. After reading the notes from the Community Focus Group, I have an even bigger issue with a response to a question in the notes.

A player had asked the very good question, regarding if it is legal to get potions from item frames. The answer was that it is considered abusing a glitch.

Well, lets start off by discussing if the item frames thing can even by considered a glitch. Dinnerbone programmed the item frames specifically so that if you click on them the item shoots out. Because that is how the item frames were programed to work, no it is not a glitch.

Now, quite obviously this is a very minor problem as I am sure the devs are working on a solution, but my point is that I would like to see MCG be more careful with how they word their rules. How would player know that that is against the rules because it is considered abusing a glitch, when it isn't even abusing a glitch?

Don't come an tell me that this is a one off thing either, because general rule 17 stills states this:

17. You may not sell items for monitary value (such as Minecraft Accounts, In Game Ranks, or in game items) for any sort of personal gain on any of our platforms.

Well, I asked the staff about this and they said that selling art is legal. SO THEREFORE IT SHOULD STATE THAT IN THE RULES AS AN EXCEPTION. Because that is an item being sold for monetary value. Not to mention that abusing OP items is illegal, when it NEVER STATES THAT ANYWHERE IN THE RULES. (Correct me if I am wrong).

Note: Sorry if this sounds rude, but all I am asking for is for the rules to be revised to address these questions. Sorry if I put false information in here, staff please correct me if I am wrong. However, from what I have been able to gather from staff, this is accurate.

 

[Nick]

It's equivalent to block glitching.

 

[arsenal]

It's equivalent to block glitching.

Block glitching IS a glitch because it was not intended by the programmer. This item frame thing was. That is the difference.
Edit: and block glitching has "glitch" in the name so it is way more obvious that it is a glitch, just saying.

 

[Nick]

Block glitching IS a glitch because it was not intended by the programmer. This item frame thing was. That is the difference.
Edit: and block glitching has "glitch" in the name so it is way more obvious that it is a glitch, just saying.

It's a glitch due to the sheer fact that our plugin can't have an anti-break on the items in item frames. If we could we would but currently the plugin doesn't cover that and we don't intend for you to be able to break it therefore it's exploiting a glitch.

 

[arsenal]

It's a glitch due to the sheer fact that our plugin can't have an anti-break on the items in item frames. If we could we would but currently the plugin doesn't cover that and we don't intend for you to be able to break it therefore it's exploiting a glitch.

Well, then you should state that in the rules is my point. Because it is technically not a glitch, according to the definition of a glitch. However, if you would like to consider it one, just clarify that in the rules. That is my point. Also, I think I should add on that it is really easy to fix the plugin issue. MCSG already has a plugin that prevents you from picking up things like wood blocks. How about they expand that to potions?

 

[Nick]

Well, then you should state that in the rules is my point. Because it is technically not a glitch, according to the definition of a glitch. However, if you would like to consider it one, just clarify that in the rules. That is my point. Also, I think I should add on that it is really easy to fix the plugin issue. MCSG already has a plugin that prevents you from picking up things like wood blocks. How about they expand that to potions?

I will bring it up in our next MCGamer Staff Meeting this weekend . Thank you for raising this, it will help both the community and us. Mind if I lock the thread given that the point has been addressed?

 

[arsenal]

Mind if I lock the thread given that the point has been addressed?

Hmmmm, sure. Please bring up my point about the art section too though. I noticed a mod locking threads on the art section saying that it broke that rule. I have asked staff before and they have told me that selling art is legal. I thing that should be clarified in the rules as well, it is pretty confusing.

 

[Nick]

Hmmmm, sure. Please bring up my point about the art section too though. I noticed a mod locking threads on the art section saying that it broke that rule. I have asked staff before and they have told me that selling art is legal. I thing that should be clarified in the rules as well, it is pretty confusing.

Will do .

Thread locked.