kaelinator
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they were unlisted, but the tool I use to manage my yt account still counts the videos that are unlisted, I was pretty much inclined to delete them.
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Perma banned for dumb reasons
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Mamiamato24
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This is interesting.
The rule instated, which basically implies that if you upload a video of a tribute breaking the server's rules, and the video is removed at any point in time, a punishment ensues, is an interesting one. It is widely understood that we aren't trying to scrounge for every reason why people should be banned, but the explanation is completely valid. If, suddenly, the person who's hacking video that doesn't exist on the internet anymore disputes his ban, there wouldn't be any evidence against his case and he would have to be unbanned. It's an exploitable loophole that must be mended by creating special guidelines.
While yes, you did break this rule, the fault lies less in your hands and more in the hands of the network and the staff team. One thing that really intrigues me is the fact that they somehow expect every single person, even the people that have never logged onto the site in their lifetime, to know the complete set of rules, down to it's subtle intricacies and loophole patches, when in reality, most don't. It's like the terms of use that nobody bothers reading; if you behave correctly you'll most likely be fine, but there's a chance that you'll unwillingly be doing something wrong.
What seriously irritates me about the whole "report abuse" system is its lack of professionalism. Uploading videos on a separate platform and linking a staff member to the video is far from professional. This system implies, at first glance, that once the player is banned you're free to do what you want. They don't have anything implemented to archive these videos; it is just expected that they remain on the internet, when in fact, things happen.
People can delete videos on the platform that most videos are uploaded on (YouTube), which makes it undoubtedly unreliable for archiving hacker reports. One could mindlessly delete a hacker video if they want to disable their YouTube account without the intentions of getting themselves banned on the network. I would suggest there be a more professional system implemented; a system whereby one could upload the raw footage directly to MCGamer, allowing it to be stored without the risk of it suddenly getting deleted.
Something else that doesn't make very much sense is the punishment that is instated. If you accidentally break this rule, you are permanently banned; no disputes, no questions asked (if you don't have the footage). Now exactly what problem does this solve? Does permanently banning someone from the network make the deleted video magically appear again? No, it doesn't. I really feel as if this consequence exists just to make people reflect upon what they did, and basically make them feel horrible about themselves. The video still isn't there, it's gone! Removing someone from your network isn't magically going to solve the problem! Something has to happen if we ever plan on fixing this problem, but for now, it remains a loophole patch, unknown by many, waiting to capture its next innocent victim.
The rule instated, which basically implies that if you upload a video of a tribute breaking the server's rules, and the video is removed at any point in time, a punishment ensues, is an interesting one. It is widely understood that we aren't trying to scrounge for every reason why people should be banned, but the explanation is completely valid. If, suddenly, the person who's hacking video that doesn't exist on the internet anymore disputes his ban, there wouldn't be any evidence against his case and he would have to be unbanned. It's an exploitable loophole that must be mended by creating special guidelines.
While yes, you did break this rule, the fault lies less in your hands and more in the hands of the network and the staff team. One thing that really intrigues me is the fact that they somehow expect every single person, even the people that have never logged onto the site in their lifetime, to know the complete set of rules, down to it's subtle intricacies and loophole patches, when in reality, most don't. It's like the terms of use that nobody bothers reading; if you behave correctly you'll most likely be fine, but there's a chance that you'll unwillingly be doing something wrong.
What seriously irritates me about the whole "report abuse" system is its lack of professionalism. Uploading videos on a separate platform and linking a staff member to the video is far from professional. This system implies, at first glance, that once the player is banned you're free to do what you want. They don't have anything implemented to archive these videos; it is just expected that they remain on the internet, when in fact, things happen.
People can delete videos on the platform that most videos are uploaded on (YouTube), which makes it undoubtedly unreliable for archiving hacker reports. One could mindlessly delete a hacker video if they want to disable their YouTube account without the intentions of getting themselves banned on the network. I would suggest there be a more professional system implemented; a system whereby one could upload the raw footage directly to MCGamer, allowing it to be stored without the risk of it suddenly getting deleted.
Something else that doesn't make very much sense is the punishment that is instated. If you accidentally break this rule, you are permanently banned; no disputes, no questions asked (if you don't have the footage). Now exactly what problem does this solve? Does permanently banning someone from the network make the deleted video magically appear again? No, it doesn't. I really feel as if this consequence exists just to make people reflect upon what they did, and basically make them feel horrible about themselves. The video still isn't there, it's gone! Removing someone from your network isn't magically going to solve the problem! Something has to happen if we ever plan on fixing this problem, but for now, it remains a loophole patch, unknown by many, waiting to capture its next innocent victim.
YourAverageTiger
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Hello,
First off:
kaelinator - you're more than welcome to dispute your ban here:
http://dispute.mcgamer.info
Mamiamato24 - I like your view on the rule, and I would like it if you could keep an eye on a DM I am about to send you.
And with that, I am going to lock this thread due to it being about a ban and the dispute link was provided.
First off:
kaelinator - you're more than welcome to dispute your ban here:
http://dispute.mcgamer.info
Mamiamato24 - I like your view on the rule, and I would like it if you could keep an eye on a DM I am about to send you.
And with that, I am going to lock this thread due to it being about a ban and the dispute link was provided.
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