Hell Games Rant

[Brandon6895]

this is a serious thread, please leave if you have nothing to contribute to the topic

It's a rant... not very serious man :/

 

[Blazerboy | Noah]

It's a rant... not very serious man :/

Did you read the posts before yours? They're all very serious and talking about how to solve problems with HG.

 

[Brandon6895]

Did you read the posts before yours? They're all very serious and talking about how to solve problems with HG.

All right, it was 1 light hearted comment, you gotta chill, or just ignore it, I don't see anyone else complaining but you and @YourFavoriteTreecko liking all your posts.

 

[Blazerboy | Noah]

All right, it was 1 light hearted comment, you gotta chill, or just ignore it, I don't see anyone else complaining but you and @YourFavoriteTreecko liking all your posts.

If I didn't do it I can guarantee someone else would have. I also don't know why treecko is liking my posts, don't even know who that is :/

 

[Brandon6895]

If I didn't do it I can guarantee someone else would have. I also don't know why treecko is liking my posts, don't even know who that is :/

k thx bai.

 

[EvermoreHD]

k thx bai.

You really want to start a flame war, don't you?

 

[Blazerboy | Noah]

You really want to start a flame war, don't you?

Ignore him, if you want to continue it you're at fault too

 

[BlazeMaster]

My only problem with the Hell Games is that if in future an Admin were to take part again, then they should be temporarily deranked so they are no longer immune to NCP.
Being immune to NCP gives them a great advantage over the other tributes.

Just a thought..
@Antster360
@Dave
@CaptButterToast
@BlazeMaster
@Ginger
@Forairan

There ranks for taken away--

 

[flyon21]

There ranks for taken away--

Can you please say your opinion.
I really want your opinion
I hope this didn't make me a sure never-getting-into-hg guy. It was kinda suggestions

But I seriously want your opinion

 

[BlazeMaster]

Can you please say your opinion.
I really want your opinion
I hope this didn't make me a sure never-getting-into-hg guy. It was kinda suggestions

But I seriously want your opinion

Critisising the Hell Games will not get you banned from further events- However I feel like a major part of this thread was about how some people didn't deserver there win, teh Hell Games aren't fair- there not supposed to be. Wert won because he got lucky-- oh well. The last man standing is the winner- no redos.

Also you stat that players were killed by GMs-- that is our fault and we are working on that-- if you are killed by a GM message either me- ginger- or Captbuttertoast about the issue and we will find a way to make it fair- perhaps abother chance in the games.

Next- you say we killed of the only team with a chance-- and that it wasn't fair. Actually if anything it wasn't fair to Six and Ant as we rained Hell opon them-- I mean HELL. We only rained a bit of a storm on that other team and they died, they didn't get as much danger as Six and Ant did. We are there to harass other players- not kill them- but harass. If you get low from a GM attack play it tactically. Six and Ant helped each other out and were always together- leading to there survival. They had less gear than the other team and yet manages to survive worse attacks.

Thats my opinion on this thread-- it's not really stating too many facts- there are a lot of opinisons like who deserved to win ect. but as someone else mentioned- this is a community event purley for fun- and we are not perfect. If we make mistakes we try and correct them next time. We are always opened to opinions-- message me, Ginger, or Capt. if you have any ideas-- and who knows?

Cya for the 9th event-- it's going to be one Hell of'a Quarter Quell! { see what I did there }

 

[flyon21]

Critisising the Hell Games will not get you banned from further events- However I feel like a major part of this thread was about how some people didn't deserver there win, teh Hell Games aren't fair- there not supposed to be. Wert won because he got lucky-- oh well. The last man standing is the winner- no redos.

Also you stat that players were killed by GMs-- that is our fault and we are working on that-- if you are killed by a GM message either me- ginger- or Captbuttertoast about the issue and we will find a way to make it fair- perhaps abother chance in the games.

Next- you say we killed of the only team with a chance-- and that it wasn't fair. Actually if anything it wasn't fair to Six and Ant as we rained Hell opon them-- I mean HELL. We only rained a bit of a storm on that other team and they died, they didn't get as much danger as Six and Ant did. We are there to harass other players- not kill them- but harass. If you get low from a GM attack play it tactically. Six and Ant helped each other out and were always together- leading to there survival. They had less gear than the other team and yet manages to survive worse attacks.

Thats my opinion on this thread-- it's not really stating too many facts- there are a lot of opinisons like who deserved to win ect. but as someone else mentioned- this is a community event purley for fun- and we are not perfect. If we make mistakes we try and correct them next time. We are always opened to opinions-- message me, Ginger, or Capt. if you have any ideas-- and who knows?

Cya for the 9th event-- it's going to be one Hell of'a Quarter Quell! { see what I did there }

Quarter Quell c: OMG *begins praying for acceptance*

Also thanks for your view on the subject

 

[duckluv321]

While I have no personal experience with any 'unfair deaths' (derped into the lava last Hell Games I was in ), I have seen them, and heard about them enough to teach an advanced college course on the subject.

While I personally feel the game could be just fine without game makers (and a lot less controversial ), I do also understand they are an 'iconic' part of the Hell Games-- one if the limited things it has separating itself from a typical MCSG match.

(*Bold = Key point to my discussion)

One side of the argument says that game makers make the game unfair to others, and result in unnecessary casualties of players, which is true, and it must be admitted. The game makers don't know how much health someone has, and could release a zombie upon a player with two hearts to begin with. They also don't know that a zombie's path will chase someone off a long fall, or into a corner. They simply can't always predict that, which is both an argument as to why unfair killing isn't necessarily their fault, but more of what I think to be a reasonable argument in saying game makers are purely unpredictable. They could unless 8 zombies on someone, only to have them killed instantly, or for the zombies to be easily killed.
Same goes for TNT. They don't know if a player will react quick enough to run away, or be damaged, or even killed by the TNT, which brings up another point.
The game makers could unleash zombies unto one player, and have that player easily kill the zombies, but unleash the same amount of zombies onto someone else, and watch the player be killed. It's a different story for everyone-- which is why the argument "We spawned zombies and TNT on everyone" isn't always valid. You may have plagued the others with the same mobs, and annoyances, but it didn't effect them the same way it effected others. This makes it so that there is literally a very slim chance anything the game makers ever do will be fair, because every experience with something is different.
For example-- Sixzo and Ant were bugged with plenty of zombies, but, they easily took them on. Wolfy and SC had a much harder time doing so, which becomes apparent when they die. While Sixzo and Ant may have had more, they had a much easier experience taking them out, then Wolfy and SC, who were presented with similar obstacles.

Another point brought up was the reaping system. I will most definitely agree that numerous people have made it into many Hell Games, whilst others, such as my friend Branbob applied every time, and was lucky enough to be accepted once out of his 6 or 7 attempts.
There are many ways we could fix this, ranging from random selection, to some sort of rule stating that you may not be in another Hell Games until at least two after the last one you participated in. There are lots of ways to fix this, and while I do agree this should be fixed, I don't exactly have any ideas of my own as to how.

Lastly, I want to talk about a lot of 'reasoning' I'm seeing on this thread, which is "If you don't like it, don't play it".

This makes plenty of sense, however it shouldn't be used as an excuse (not saying it has been). If you do not like something, the easy way out is to stop doing whatever it is you don't like. But, in this case, it's different then disliking a color, for example. If you dislike the color green, you don't have much of that color-- simple. But, this is a game. This can be changed, whereas you cannot change the color green.
The 'administration' of the Hell Games should always be looking to improve, and as much as hearing complaints about something you've created can be difficult, complaints are often the best type of advice you will ever get.
Instead if simply writing it off as "whining", "ranting", or even "being a sore loser", (again, not saying anyone has) listen to what they have to say. People have suggested doing something about the game makers for a while now, and as far as I am aware, nothing has really been done.
You don't have to do exactly what people suggest, of course, but you should always at least consider making some kind of changes where it is suggested.

Pretend you are the CEO of a bubble company. Lately, people have been complaint that your bubbles pop too easily. Instead of saying "if you don't like it, don't do it", you should change your bubble recipe to make them more resistant, if at all possible, correct? You don't want people to stop using your product because they don't like it, and nothing is being done to change that.
Same thing here. You don't want people to stop supporting, or applying for the event because they don't like it, you want to try and fix what you can, where you can.
You can't of course please everybody, but you can at least try (once again, not saying that they haven't tried, because I don't know if they have or not).