Do you believe in god?

[JohnnyGoesSmash]

I am talking not flaming. All you said was that you weren't going to give your opinion; the comment added nothing to the discussion.

I gave my opinion and that was that i did not want to share pesonal information. Do nit reply to this post.

 

[MiCr2]

I gave my opinion and that was that i did not want to share pesonal information. Do nit reply to this post.

I just had to.

 

[TheOfficialWils]

I gave my opinion and that was that i did not want to share pesonal information. Do nit reply to this post.

Don't worry yourself, I was just trying to point out that if you did not want to share personal information there may be a few post that you would like to delete.

 

[RC_4777]

I'm just straight up Christian, having a strong belief in God . You're post is very good and made me smile while everyone else was all like: "dood der no god u think der gy in sky lol u nub". I feel as if our denominations of Christianity, yours being Catholic and mine being Baptist, or whatever other you'd like to call it, there are many that are incredibly similar. But, yeah, xD. I really think the only difference is that you guys focus more on Mother Mary than us? Am I right?

The difference is a lot of small variations in emphasis, minor beliefs, and Mass structure. It's not really that different, we all believe the same main things

 

[Lululioness]

I am raised to be Christian, this is just something for you to think about.

zeit·geist
/ˈtsītˌgīst/

Noun
The defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of the time.

I watched a documentary/art piece called 'Zeitgeist' and it said a lot about religion which may or may not be true. If you've seen it you're probably like, 'WTF IS A 12 YEAR OLD DOING WATCHING THAT?' but honestly it taught me a lot and I found it very interesting. Sources were not cited by the creator of the film, which sparked many questions since the video had essentially told people to open their eyes to what the big picture is. It encouraged people to think- what are they actually doing?

You can believe in religion- it's there to answer some people's questions, but at the same time it has began many terrible, terrible wars. It's not in my right to say what's right or wrong and please don't be offended by what I'm saying as it may be untrue but what I'm trying to do is encourage you to think about what is really happening, what it really is.

"The more you begin to investigate what we think we understand, where we came from, what we think we're doing, the more you begin to see we've been lied to. We've been lied to by every institution.

Ok, so here's my point here. Think about it- is there really gonna be a man up in the sky deciding our path and looking at all 7 billion people in the world and saying 'Hmm... that girl was really bad, she's not coming to heaven" or "That boy did lots of good in his life he's going to heaven to dance with Jesus and my three spirits" (Jah, I know all about Christianity- I've been raised to be one but then as I got older I began to think about it. I also kinda hated going to Church because I liked sleeping in on Sunday).

"Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

"But He loves you"

"What makes you think that the religious institution is the only one that's never been touched? The religious institutions of this world are at the bottom of the dirt. The religious institutions in this world are put there by the same people who gave you your government, your corrupt education, who set up your international banking cartels. Because our masters don't give a damn about you or your family. All they care about is what they have always cared about and that's controlling the whole damn world"

I don't know, there is no solid proof with God/s existing, no solid proof that we evolved from apes, but if we're questioning the past on how we came into being- why don't we question the future.

Could religion/god just be one of those things to manipulate us, distract us from real problems? Religion is the base of most wars. And wanting power.

If religion is put there by the same people who gave you the corrupt education and your crazy government of power-hungry people, then is it really true?

What are they exactly trying to do?


Other points-
Attis, of Phyrigia, born of the virgin Nana on December 25th, crucified, placed in a tomb and after 3 days, was resurrected.

Krishna, of India, born of the virgin Devaki with a star in the east signaling his coming, performed miracles with his disciples, and upon his death was resurrected.

Dionysus of Greece, born of a virgin on December 25th, was a traveling teacher who performed miracles such as turning water into wine, he was referred to as the "King of Kings," "God's Only Begotten Son," "The Alpha and Omega," and many others, and upon his death, he was resurrected.

Mithra, of Persia, born of a virgin on December 25th, he had 12 disciples and performed miracles, and upon his death was buried for 3 days and thus resurrected, he was also referred to as "The Truth," "The Light," and many others. Interestingly, the sacred day of worship of Mithra was Sunday.

Jesus Christ was born of the virgin Mary on December 25th in Bethlehem, his birth was announced by a star in the east, which three kings or magi followed to locate and adorn the new savior. He was a child teacher at 12, at the age of 30 he was baptized by John the Baptist, and thus began his ministry. Jesus had 12 disciples which he traveled about with performing miracles such as healing the sick, walking on water, raising the dead, he was also known as the "King of Kings," the "Son of God," the "Light of the World," the "Alpha and Omega," the "Lamb of God," and many others. After being betrayed by his disciple Judas and sold for 30 pieces of silver, he was crucified, placed in a tomb and after 3 days was resurrected and ascended into Heaven.


This is just weird stuff and it's like

Mind= Blown.

To understand it better and find out more- do some research or watch Zeitgeist.
Anyways this is just some stuff from the documentary and you can watch it on YouTube (just look up Zeitgeist: The Movie) or read this transcript.

JustreadwhatI'mtryingtosayanditmakesnosensemaybejustwatchZeitgeistguysoksobyeyeahbye.

No one gave their thoughts on Zeitgeist I am sadded

 

[KorStonesword]

I believe in God, but I also think this thread shouldn't exist.
I'm Christian and a Jehovah's Witness.

 

[Boboaluitz]

No one gave their thoughts on Zeitgeist I am sadded

Lulu, I haven't seen Zietgeist, but I know what you're getting at.

And it's true, most religions borrow from others before them. They needed to do that when it transitioned from one religious age to another. In fact, Jesus' original date of birth may not have been on the 25th of December, it just borrowed and fit perfectly with earlier 'pagan' rituals and holidays. Several religions before Christianity itself did that. In fact, most religions did not differ to much from the one before them. It's like evolution, just for religion. Each new layer added something else humanity needed at that time. Old christianity of Rome was very strict. In fact, you could be 'sent to purgatory' unless you payed a fee. That... seems to be just a way to fund their cause, but also a way to enforce the turbulent times.

Over all of human history, even around when we first started depicting our lives on the walls of caves, religion has been there. It seems like humanity needs it, something to have hope in, something to look forward to. Zeitgeist, translated literally from German, means 'Time Spirit'. This could mean the religion of the time or how that age of humanity works, what it believes in. A lot of human history has had a religion to rely on and base themselves off of. Beliefs often clash and lead to wars and fighting and knives in the dark. Recently, in a lot of places (not so much some places in the middle east, and other places), there has been a kind of religious peace. Such a mixed culture full of various religions hasn't happened this well, yet there is still turmoil, if only in thoughts, in these religious-mixed areas. Can religions truly co-exist? It doesn't seem like its working very well right now. My father's a blacksmith, and he's been told he'd go to hell because he works with fire. Beliefs like this just point out the outdated extraneous laws of most religions, and they still contain the old mentality of out-expanding your religious enemies. It's the entire reason people knock on your doors to interest you in Jesus Christ.

Religious upheaval is still a thing that can happen. Just recently, within the last few centuries, during the 'Second Great Awakening' of the 1820s, Mormonism took a great leap. Allegedly, this rise to the new world of religion came with the usual bloodied noses and blackened eyes. A holy war, you could say, was fought to establish itself in the modern world. There will be transitions of religion, but will humanity ever be able to give it up?

There have been thousands of generations who believed their own faith, who believed that they were in the right and everyone else was in the wrong. Empires, Civilizations, Nations, all with their own religious denominations, all of them proclaiming themselves different and the correct one. Today's modern religions are, for the most part, no different. They have a set of ethics that isn't much different from the other, yet they alienate 'others'... Believe what you want, follow the ethics you want. You don't necessarily need a religion to be an ethical human. In heart, religions are the same: founding, transition, beliefs, existence. We're all really not that different, we just govern ourselves in different ways. Some need and/or know religion, others don't.

I have so much more to say, but I don't know who will read it...

 

[OuchTheSchauzer]

hmmmm no. God (or any celestial being) seems extremely unlikely

 

[Saber]

Can't say, but I don't believe that if he is real, he is worthy to be worshipped.

 

[Lululioness]

Lulu, I haven't seen Zietgeist, but I know what you're getting at.

And it's true, most religions borrow from others before them. They needed to do that when it transitioned from one religious age to another. In fact, Jesus' original date of birth may not have been on the 25th of December, it just borrowed and fit perfectly with earlier 'pagan' rituals and holidays. Several religions before Christianity itself did that. In fact, most religions did not differ to much from the one before them. It's like evolution, just for religion. Each new layer added something else humanity needed at that time. Old christianity of Rome was very strict. In fact, you could be 'sent to purgatory' unless you payed a fee. That... seems to be just a way to fund their cause, but also a way to enforce the turbulent times.

Over all of human history, even around when we first started depicting our lives on the walls of caves, religion has been there. It seems like humanity needs it, something to have hope in, something to look forward to. Zeitgeist, translated literally from German, means 'Time Spirit'. This could mean the religion of the time or how that age of humanity works, what it believes in. A lot of human history has had a religion to rely on and base themselves off of. Beliefs often clash and lead to wars and fighting and knives in the dark. Recently, in a lot of places (not so much some places in the middle east, and other places), there has been a kind of religious peace. Such a mixed culture full of various religions hasn't happened this well, yet there is still turmoil, if only in thoughts, in these religious-mixed areas. Can religions truly co-exist? It doesn't seem like its working very well right now. My father's a blacksmith, and he's been told he'd go to hell because he works with fire. Beliefs like this just point out the outdated extraneous laws of most religions, and they still contain the old mentality of out-expanding your religious enemies. It's the entire reason people knock on your doors to interest you in Jesus Christ.

Religious upheaval is still a thing that can happen. Just recently, within the last few centuries, during the 'Second Great Awakening' of the 1820s, Mormonism took a great leap. Allegedly, this rise to the new world of religion came with the usual bloodied noses and blackened eyes. A holy war, you could say, was fought to establish itself in the modern world. There will be transitions of religion, but will humanity ever be able to give it up?

There have been thousands of generations who believed their own faith, who believed that they were in the right and everyone else was in the wrong. Empires, Civilizations, Nations, all with their own religious denominations, all of them proclaiming themselves different and the correct one. Today's modern religions are, for the most part, no different. They have a set of ethics that isn't much different from the other, yet they alienate 'others'... Believe what you want, follow the ethics you want. You don't necessarily need a religion to be an ethical human. In heart, religions are the same: founding, transition, beliefs, existence. We're all really not that different, we just govern ourselves in different ways. Some need and/or know religion, others don't.

I have so much more to say, but I don't know who will read it...

Ezzackly
Now go watch it, it's very interesting

 

[Llamagod]

you are looking at your future god so he ios real! BOW DOWN

 

[DanaBanana]

I believe in potatos .
Enough Said.