Rant :D

[M3rsh]

I'd like to start off by saying I'm a fairly new member. I've started playing MCSG somewhere around August 2013, but when I do play, its 3-12 hours a day, so I certainly know most of the chest routes, strats, etc. But what bugs me most are Hackers and Teams, the 2 most irritating things to most people. Most people, however, just leave it at that.

-"Damn hackers all over these days, I hate them."
-"Why do you hate them?"
-"Cause ya know, they hack and stuff."

This is where I come in. I have an hour to write this, so I'm gonna make it good.

When I say that I hate hackers, it's actually more of an exaggeration. I actually more or less feel bad for them. If I was so bad at some game that I had to hack just to win, I wouldn't be happy, but I'm not gonna walk in their shoes or anything, so I honestly don't know why hackers hack. That's my best guess though, to make themselves feel better since they're so bad.

I absolutely, however, am for reporting and banning them. MCSG is a very friendly community, and hacking is IMO a way to say "This is a bad community. I'm gonna ruin it. That'll show 'em." By doing that, a hacker would pleasure himself and all the other hackers. Let's say 3% of MCSGers hack. That's 60.000 people out of a total of 2 million, and anyone in their right mind would say satisfying 1.940.000 people is more important than satisfying 60k, especially if the 60k are running for a bad cause. I think of this like a small group of protesters to start war against an allied country. The 50 or so people that are in the protest stand no chance against the massive population and government/whatever your country might have.

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So, what's so bad about teams? Well, they make the game bad for the other players. If there was somehow a system incorporated where you get put into teams of 2, it would be much easier whereas everyone would be happy. However, this is not currently the case.

The worst thing is when there's a team of 4 or more. This makes it basically impossible for anyone else to win, and that's why sometimes you see bad players with a lot of wins. They grab some friends then the friends let the bad player kill them at deathmatch, once everyone else is dead from the team. Teams of 3 are usually also hard to take out solo, but not impossible, and teams of 2 can often be easy to take out solo using the right strats.

I especially hate it when you have worse armour and stats that the whole team, and they team on you. They chase you for ages, then give up, only to do the same at deathmatch. If you're in a team and you see a player worse armoured than you, go solo for him. This will give him even the slightest chance at survival, and your other teammates can be off getting refill or killing a major threat.


So that's my little rant. I really hope someone reads this because I've just been trying to get this off my head for ages. If you did read to the bottom, thanks a lot. That's all I got.

-M3

 

[Burtry]

I like teamers, they're a challenge. I mean I rage when I die to them but I'd rather have teams than no teams.

 

[Viretine]

Very well written thread. However, I enjoy playing against teams and I have reported quite a few hackers.

 

[M3rsh]

Very well written thread. However, I enjoy playing against teams and I have reported quite a few hackers.

Thanks :3

 

[DeformedChild]

I just want you to know it doesn't matter the size of a team. I killed a 5 player team once. It can be done, and certainly anyone can do it.

 

[Captain Dory]

About the title:
It reminds me of those youtube comments that are like
<fancy text symbol>
Hi, i know this is really annoying, and i know no one will read this, but please, if you are reading, this keep reading.
<insert stuff about quality subscribers and amazing fanbase>
<end with fancy text symbol>

 

[Chobski]

There are always going to be hackers, so we just have to deal with them. On the other hand teams are a challenge and it is an achievement. I don't know what region you play on but there are very rarely 4+ teams on EU ans US, if you are having problems taking teams out then you should try using large amounts of fms

 

[Gustav Mahikano]

Title that screams for attention but whatevs ;p

Anyway, about the text itself, having a system where you're automatically put in a team of 2 would be bad simply because not everyone wants to team - I prefer playing solo and never team with randoms. Alongside that, automatically getting put into a team would prevent you from backstabbing, removing an element of the game jefeperro would hate. If you were to tell me you could still attack your teamate, I'd simply tell you that even if you're placed into a team with them you don't need to abide by those rules at all, making it pointless. Either way, it's a loss-loss.

As for the teams, I find them fun to go against, but I only really team because I find it more enjoyable to play with someone and have a laugh. Given the right gear and the way you play a team of 4 doesn't guarantee a win at all unless you're playing on Breeze Island. Picking people off is a very good way to go about it as teams of 4 generally don't stick together much, especially when the game starts. Most players who are in a team of four are easy to spot unless you don't know them but those are aren't well known are generally not very big threats. Basically, it isn't too bad to deal with teams of 4, even if you don't know who is teamed with who.

Besides having a little suggestion with a new feature I don't really see the point of this thread besides you complaining about hackers and teams. I guess if you really wanted to get it out you did it xD

 

[Captain Dak]

Yes, hackers are a problem. We're doing the best we can, but it's still not possible to eliminate them entirely. And yes, there are lots of teams. But the best advice I can give you is to simply get better. It's the only thing that will help in the long run. Practice, practice, practice, practice, practice. I won't go into specific strategies for taking down teams, but you can easily learn that yourself. After lots of practice and learning certain skills, eventually you'll get to the point where you will win games very easily, even against the hackers and teams; at which point you'll enjoy the challenge they offer. Not saying you will enjoy fighting hackers; nobody does, but I'm mainly talking about the teams. As for the hackers, record and report as often as you can. It may not seem like you make much of a difference, but believe me, we appreciate anyone who takes time to help get hackers banned, even if it's just one or two.

P.S. And don't assume a thread won't be read, we always take time to look over the forums and read the threads, especially ones like this where someone is having an issue.

 

[MoLoToV]

Well, about the teams, there is nothing really you can do about it. MCSG is a community to have fun in. And people tend to team just to be able to talk on skype while playing, or to just higher their change of winning. A system wouldn't be a good idea, as it would ruin the point why people are teaming up : To have more fun then when they are playing alone.

I enjoy playing as a team with someone on the teamspeak way more than just soloing. The fact that we also win more as a team, is just a nice little extra. I know people will hate for people that team up, even if it's teams of 4 of bigger, but in almost all cases this is just because they are having more fun when playing as a big group.

Alot of people tend to try to kill teams. It's a great feeling just knowing that you defeated multiple people just by your own!

 

[Krafty]

Hackers = will always be there
Teams = will alwayss be there

 

[M3rsh]

Yes, hackers are a problem. We're doing the best we can, but it's still not possible to eliminate them entirely. And yes, there are lots of teams. But the best advice I can give you is to simply get better. It's the only thing that will help in the long run. Practice, practice, practice, practice, practice. I won't go into specific strategies for taking down teams, but you can easily learn that yourself. After lots of practice and learning certain skills, eventually you'll get to the point where you will win games very easily, even against the hackers and teams; at which point you'll enjoy the challenge they offer. Not saying you will enjoy fighting hackers; nobody does, but I'm mainly talking about the teams. As for the hackers, record and report as often as you can. It may not seem like you make much of a difference, but believe me, we appreciate anyone who takes time to help get hackers banned, even if it's just one or two.

P.S. And don't assume a thread won't be read, we always take time to look over the forums and read the threads, especially ones like this where someone is having an issue.

This is my first time posting anything on the forums, and I thought it would work a lot differently. Since MCSG is such a massive community, I thought a lot more people would post on the forums.

Thanks for the kind words. I guess the only real tip here is to get better.