Shut down by staff.

[Tacoface1234]

Heres something very similar to what happened with OnlyMathias. He said the truth, he wanted to tell what was happening and trying to make the community better, however MCSG doesn't wants to, so they removed his opinion and banned him.

If MCSG doesn't like it —or to be more clear, the mind behind MCSG which isn't Chad— then they will delete it.

Or he did the opposite of what any staff member should be doing and brought issues he had out into the public before bringing those issues straight to the higher staff to be worked out. This is a standard of the staff team that we expect to be upheld, and everyone in the staff team is held to it. I don't like to talk about other people's ban reasons as it's generally a bad idea, but these rumors are revolting, hopefully a little enlightenment can clear them up.

Regarding the petition, no, we aren't going to remove NCP. With kitpvp's current beta infrastructure, we don't have the means to keep the servers clean without NCP. Most staff members can't even spectate hackers yet (TBA) so we need every automation we can get to keep the numbers down. We do realize how much gameplay is being affected, It's just that it is a beta and obviously some things are not going to be working properly right out of the gate.

 

[Dave]

So, has to compact with 1.6 and 1.7, making it harder for the plugin to fully work?

same as it does on sg

 

[Zaex]

same as it does on sg

I know the PvP is in beta, but why not just copy the entire working plugin, and move it to KitPvP? It works on SG, why does it work differently no Kitpvp?

 

[Fox]

i have nurfed it as far as it can go with out being pointless

Have you tried playing? its impossible to play.

Please don't make comments like this without knowing everything about the situation. We're not trying to make the community into our own playground where we can bully everybody around, we're trying to improve it. The reason posts which cause drama are removed is because 1)They cause flaming 2)There is a crazy amount of false and completely untrue rumors in them 3)Very often, staff information is leaked.

if you're trying to improve it how come zed chase isn't up and MCTF2. This is a small petition we have. We just want to actually PVP. We can't hit players and we awkwardly stare hitting with our swords and the hits won't register ruining all the PVP experience. We understand why do you need NCP, but if you can't even hit players whats the point of a pvp server?

Or he did the opposite of what any staff member should be doing and brought issues he had out into the public before bringing those issues straight to the higher staff to be worked out. This is a standard of the staff team that we expect to be upheld, and everyone in the staff team is held to it. I don't like to talk about other people's ban reasons as it's generally a bad idea, but these rumors are revolting, hopefully a little enlightenment can clear them up.

Regarding the petition, no, we aren't going to remove NCP. With kitpvp's current beta infrastructure, we don't have the means to keep the servers clean without NCP. Most staff members can't even spectate hackers yet (TBA) so we need every automation we can get to keep the numbers down. We do realize how much gameplay is being affected, It's just that it is a beta and obviously some things are not going to be working properly right out of the gate.

Things where properly fine until you did something with NCP. At first we had the 8 blocks hit area, then it was reduced and the server was perfect at that time. Then you changed the plugin and we can't even hit the other players. Just try it. Yes, as I stated, I understand its beta, but why ruin something that was already perfect and made it for it to many members have a complaint about it.

Regarding my comment, I do understand it was too revealing and in some facts not truth, but for the most part is and will be my point of view.

 

[Diar]

if you're trying to improve it how come zed chase isn't up and MCTF2. This is a small petition we have. We just want to actually PVP. We can't hit players and we awkwardly stare hitting with our swords and the hits won't register ruining all the PVP experience. We understand why do you need NCP, but if you can't even hit players whats the point of a pvp server?

What do ZedChase and MCTF2 have to do with this? They are being worked on, but Survival Games is the absolute priority, and the developers are already extremely busy with Catching Fire, and other projects.

As I said, you are helping to test the server and NoCheatPlus. You are supposed to report the problems, not complain and start petitions to remove the plugin you are testing.

 

[Fox]

What do ZedChase and MCTF2 have to do with this? They are being worked on, but Survival Games is the absolute priority, and the developers are already extremely busy with Catching Fire, and other projects.

As I said, you are helping to test the server and NoCheatPlus. You are supposed to report the problems, not complain and start petitions to remove the plugin you are testing.

They are not related with the PVP server, still they are unfinished projects.
We are complaining about why did you edit the server after already was perfect?
I will leave this discussion up to here.

 

[WertQuadNine]

Add me to the list, now.

 

[BlueHeron]

The point of a KitPvP server is to get better at PvP, and because KitPvP is on MCGamer, the pvp training will be most likely used for MCSG. Therefore, why shouldn't KitPvP's NCP replicate MCSG's NCP? There's enough hackers as it is on there.

 

[BlitzCometITU]

The point of a KitPvP server is to get better at PvP, and because KitPvP is on MCGamer, the pvp training will be most likely used for MCSG. Therefore, why shouldn't KitPvP's NCP replicate MCSG's NCP? There's enough hackers as it is on there.

I can't tell if you're with me or against me. Lol.

 

[MJM239]

Oh here we go again, MCSG in it's millionth fail rebellion.

Also, when you refer to NCP, are you talking about the Anti-Hack plugin? If so, are you people all on crack?

 

[BlitzCometITU]

Oh here we go again, MCSG in it's millionth fail rebellion.

Also, when you refer to NCP, are you talking about the Anti-Hack plugin? If so, are you people all on crack?

Please be more rude then you already are, please! And yes, we are referring to that. Ncp ruins PvP, it causes you to not land hits, lag backwards, and armor sometimes like, glitches off you're body. It's horrid.

 

[MJM239]

Please be more rude then you already are, please! And yes, we are referring to that. Ncp ruins PvP, it causes you to not land hits, lag backwards, and armor sometimes like, glitches off you're body. It's horrid.

Have you people even considered the possibilities without NCP? As Taco had even said a few posts ago, they realize there's problems with Kit PVP, they just don't have the means to do so, since it would only make matters worse and more complaints would flow in.

Oh, and also, regarding your whole point of there being 2 vs. 64 about the petition, I can also counter that argument too.

Let's say we have 200 Active Forummers on the MCSG Forums, which is probably even less than the amount that actually come on here every day.

Your petition had 64 signatures. Since we have 200 Active Forummers that didn't care enough to sign about the petition, or they disagreed, didn't make a post, and moved on... (Such as myself) YOU are technically in the minority if anything.

Get where I'm at?

To make this as blunt as possible, I'm not countering the argument of removing NCP, I'm countering the argument of the point in removing it. If you were to remove NCP, there'd basically be no positive changes. Yes, you'd have your fixes, but you'd also have to deal with a load more of hackers and on top of that, no way to stop them. (Going back to Taco's post of mods not even able to spectate hackers) Which, you may think NCP doesn't work, but it's MCSG's main line of defense against hackers, and has for the last year or so.

Everybody wanted NCP removed in MCSG during 1.3, and it was like a war between two enraged sides. I don't see why everybody wants it removed now, because as it was in 1.3, nothing good would come out of it, and still today, you'd have more issues than you have now.

Point blank.