Should their be an age limit on mod app?

[RC_4777]

Where do I begin though?

You have to figure it out. I'm sorry, that's just how it goes.

 

[Lululioness]

But I'm not that kind of 13 year old I'm nice, respectful and will help players if they need it. Oh and you can even get an age exception at 11 because your not even allowed on the forums.

Look, there was no exception process back then and I just applied and hoped for the best.

If I am not allowed on forums at 11, is that why I have made friends with countless moderators, I know all the Senior Moderators and even some admins and developers? Is that why I managed to get the friend rank, and got active member on the forums?

There are plenty of 11 year olds on the forums, even some 9 and 10 year olds and there is no rules against age on the forums, TeamSpeak or the actual game. Someone going for an age exception should know that.

And I'm sure that you are a nice 13 year old, but I guarantee you have outbursts and get angry, even I do sometimes, but I am able to realise that. I was just stating the reasons for the age limit.

Also that last sentence made no sense but I just tried to understand what you were saying xD

 

[patrickfalcon]

i think there should be a age limit but if you can prove yourself responsible enough i think they can make exceptions

 

[Col_StaR]

As the primary person who deals with Age Exceptions, let me say this:

• I've had a 10 year old seeking a moderator position. He was earnest and enthusiastic, but I doubt anyone would be willing to heed the words of a staff member who's still in elementary school. Plus his communication skills weren't the best.
• I've had 13 year olds turn out to be exemplary mods. Some of them are still members of our staff whom I consider trustworthy. Despite their age, they hold themselves as model staff members and often out-do their elder peers.
• I've had 14 year olds who were accepted when 14 was the age limit, and they did things to hurt the community because they were suffering lapses in judgement. Whether they were going through teenage angst, personal problems, or peer pressure, younger teenagers have demonstrated that they are especially likely to become liabilities to themselves and others; those years are definitely not kind to everyone. Those individuals never realize that what they're doing is wrong at the moment, but some of the actions that many people within that age range have taken in the past is a primary reason why the current staff age limit is 15.
• I've had 13 and 14 year olds of various aptitude and abilities seeking an Age Exception. Few succeed, most fail, but almost all of the failed applicants were not fit or capable of becoming a moderator regardless of their age. The application process for Age Exceptions is very intense, but our regular Moderator Application process is very thorough as well. Whether their application is poorly written or they have a history of bans, many of the applicants fail for reasons other than age.
• I've had staff members 21+ (mostly with other communities in my past) who are nothing short of immature 12 year olds in a 21+ year old's body. They're impulsive, petty, begrudging, and agitating for personal satisfaction. They're smart enough to play the, "I'm older so I'm more mature" card, but they demonstrate that such an adage can be flawed.

I hope my perspective lends some understanding to the staff's approach to moderator age limits and age exceptions.
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Hello everyone I just wanted to ask you guys if you think their should be an age limit on moderator? I think there should not be an age limit if you wrote a very good application and are on the servers alot.

It's explanations of rationale like that that remind me why we instated Age Exceptions in the first place. In fact, the topic of this thread displays a potent lack of self-awareness. There is more to be considered than simply a number of years on a moderator application, which is why the age exception process exists to gauge other aspects of an applicant's abilities within a more liberal age range.
Furthermore @Chaos_Slayer_, asking @RC_4777 for instructions how to get an age exception three times, despite the fact that he explicitly told you he's not at liberty to divulge such information, is not a show of maturity.

....Oh and you can even get an age exception at 11 because your not even allowed on the forums.

There is no age exception for 11 year olds. There never was.
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You have to find that out yourself. An unwritten rule of the process.

Thank you for continuing to follow through with our instructions for the Age Exception process, RC_4777. Hopeful applicants take note: even though he is no longer a part of the application process, he demonstrates an understanding of the rules and our expectations of him, and he shows good judgement in applying them. That is but one aspect that you will be tested on.

I hope that cleared things up for everyone regarding the moderator age limit.

 

[Fille]

No.

 

[BetaPuffle]

Why is there an age limit on people who can obtain a licence?
Why is there an age limit on people who can drink adult beverages?

It's all the same. At 16 (where I live) the government thinks you have the maturity to drive a car. At 18 (where I live) the government says you have the maturity to drink. Here on MCSG Chad thinks that 15 is the age you have the maturity to become a moderator.

You can cry and plea all you want, but it's not going to change. Just like the real world.

The age limit for drinks is because younger people could get very damaging things from it early stages of Liver cancer MCSG doesn't give you cancer

 

[Hunger_Gamer]

You have to be 15 years old, but there is an exception of 14 if your application is good!

 

[_MK_]

I think there shouldnt be an age limit. The only requirement should be your maturity level

 

[RC_4777]

I think there shouldnt be an age limit. The only requirement should be your maturity level

In the end, that really is what it boils down to. You can bypass the limit if you're a very good candidate for moderator through age exceptions. The age limit is there to deter apps coming in from much younger people that are naturally not mature enough for the responsibilities. I'm sure our Sr. Staff doesn't want to be bogged down by an even larger amount of applications to go through. If someone younger is smart and attempts to get an exception, then their maturity can get them through.

 

[Chaos_Slayer_]

As the primary person who deals with Age Exceptions, let me say this:

• I've had a 10 year old seeking a moderator position. He was earnest and enthusiastic, but I doubt anyone would be willing to heed the words of a staff member who's still in elementary school. Plus his communication skills weren't the best.
• I've had 13 year olds turn out to be exemplary mods. Some of them are still members of our staff whom I consider trustworthy. Despite their age, they hold themselves as model staff members and often out-do their elder peers.
• I've had 14 year olds who were accepted when 14 was the age limit, and they did things to hurt the community because they were suffering lapses in judgement. Whether they were going through teenage angst, personal problems, or peer pressure, younger teenagers have demonstrated that they are especially likely to become liabilities to themselves and others; those years are definitely not kind to everyone. Those individuals never realize that what they're doing is wrong at the moment, but some of the actions that many people within that age range have taken in the past is a primary reason why the current staff age limit is 15.
• I've had 13 and 14 year olds of various aptitude and abilities seeking an Age Exception. Few succeed, most fail, but almost all of the failed applicants were not fit or capable of becoming a moderator regardless of their age. The application process for Age Exceptions is very intense, but our regular Moderator Application process is very thorough as well. Whether their application is poorly written or they have a history of bans, many of the applicants fail for reasons other than age.
• I've had staff members 21+ (mostly with other communities in my past) who are nothing short of immature 12 year olds in a 21+ year old's body. They're impulsive, petty, begrudging, and agitating for personal satisfaction. They're smart enough to play the, "I'm older so I'm more mature" card, but they demonstrate that such an adage can be flawed.

I hope my perspective lends some understanding to the staff's approach to moderator age limits and age exceptions.
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It's explanations of rationale like that that remind me why we instated Age Exceptions in the first place. In fact, the topic of this thread displays a potent lack of self-awareness. There is more to be considered than simply a number of years on a moderator application, which is why the age exception process exists to gauge other aspects of an applicant's abilities within a more liberal age range.
Furthermore @Chaos_Slayer_, asking @RC_4777 for instructions how to get an age exception three times, despite the fact that he explicitly told you he's not at liberty to divulge such information, is not a show of maturity.


There is no age exception for 11 year olds. There never was.
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Thank you for continuing to follow through with our instructions for the Age Exception process, RC_4777. Hopeful applicants take note: even though he is no longer a part of the application process, he demonstrates an understanding of the rules and our expectations of him, and he shows good judgement in applying them. That is but one aspect that you will be tested on.

I hope that cleared things up for everyone regarding the moderator age limit.

Yes, thanks

 

[iMightTroll]

What Col.StaR said.

 

[Mlpoknzaba]

As the primary person who deals with Age Exceptions, let me say this:

• I've had a 10 year old seeking a moderator position. He was earnest and enthusiastic, but I doubt anyone would be willing to heed the words of a staff member who's still in elementary school. Plus his communication skills weren't the best.
• I've had 13 year olds turn out to be exemplary mods. Some of them are still members of our staff whom I consider trustworthy. Despite their age, they hold themselves as model staff members and often out-do their elder peers.
• I've had 14 year olds who were accepted when 14 was the age limit, and they did things to hurt the community because they were suffering lapses in judgement. Whether they were going through teenage angst, personal problems, or peer pressure, younger teenagers have demonstrated that they are especially likely to become liabilities to themselves and others; those years are definitely not kind to everyone. Those individuals never realize that what they're doing is wrong at the moment, but some of the actions that many people within that age range have taken in the past is a primary reason why the current staff age limit is 15.
• I've had 13 and 14 year olds of various aptitude and abilities seeking an Age Exception. Few succeed, most fail, but almost all of the failed applicants were not fit or capable of becoming a moderator regardless of their age. The application process for Age Exceptions is very intense, but our regular Moderator Application process is very thorough as well. Whether their application is poorly written or they have a history of bans, many of the applicants fail for reasons other than age.
• I've had staff members 21+ (mostly with other communities in my past) who are nothing short of immature 12 year olds in a 21+ year old's body. They're impulsive, petty, begrudging, and agitating for personal satisfaction. They're smart enough to play the, "I'm older so I'm more mature" card, but they demonstrate that such an adage can be flawed.

I hope my perspective lends some understanding to the staff's approach to moderator age limits and age exceptions.
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It's explanations of rationale like that that remind me why we instated Age Exceptions in the first place. In fact, the topic of this thread displays a potent lack of self-awareness. There is more to be considered than simply a number of years on a moderator application, which is why the age exception process exists to gauge other aspects of an applicant's abilities within a more liberal age range.
Furthermore @Chaos_Slayer_, asking @RC_4777 for instructions how to get an age exception three times, despite the fact that he explicitly told you he's not at liberty to divulge such information, is not a show of maturity.


There is no age exception for 11 year olds. There never was.
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Thank you for continuing to follow through with our instructions for the Age Exception process, RC_4777. Hopeful applicants take note: even though he is no longer a part of the application process, he demonstrates an understanding of the rules and our expectations of him, and he shows good judgement in applying them. That is but one aspect that you will be tested on.

I hope that cleared things up for everyone regarding the moderator age limit.

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