No Cheat Plus Misconception

[Tree_TheBigKind]

Don't get me wrong, I hate NC+ as much as the next guy.
Most people just say they hate NC+ without looking into it. Just take a while to look at how hard it is to fix a problem with something like this. The second you are close to a solution, Minecraft updates again. This destroys all progress towards the fix. You can not just take NC+ away altogether either since the number of hackers will proliferate uncontrollably. As of now NC+ is helping more the hurting. I know this is hard to realize but it is true. I know that ChadTheDJ completely agrees with me on this subject since he has to deal with this problem every day.

 

[soggypickle]

I agree and am fed up with the countless threads entitled "FIX NOCHEAT!!!1!". People need to realize that developing may not be easy, and that for the time being, the only thing they can do to help is stop spamming the forum and be patient.

 

[Tree_TheBigKind]

I agree and am fed up with the countless threads entitled "FIX NOCHEAT!!!1!". People need to realize that developing may not be easy, and that for the time being, the only thing they can do to help is stop spamming the forum and be patient.

Completely agree!!

 

[subtato]

Development for an anticheat is especially hard, as it requires knowledge of all the hacks (I can create them - just can't block them) and how they work inside and out, the knowledge of what the normal value or max values of X items in Minecraft are supposed to be (i.e. max speed when sprinting and jumping), etc.

 

[Tree_TheBigKind]

Development for an anticheat is especially hard, as it requires knowledge of all the hacks (I can create them - just can't block them) and how they work inside and out, the knowledge of what the normal value or max values of X items in Minecraft are supposed to be (i.e. max speed when sprinting and jumping), etc.

It seems that everyone working on the servers or helping run them know exactly what is going on but the regular player is not educated on the problem (I mean they do not see the problem, not calling them dumb haha). Chad or a admin or mod or something should post on the home page telling everyone the problem and stressing the point to be patient.

 

[soggypickle]

Development for an anticheat is especially hard, as it requires knowledge of all the hacks (I can create them - just can't block them) and how they work inside and out, the knowledge of what the normal value or max values of X items in Minecraft are supposed to be (i.e. max speed when sprinting and jumping), etc.

I also seem to be pushed back when I sprint and jump in a 2x1 tunnel, because it is proven to speed you up faster than regular sprinting and jumping. Perhaps you could adjust the X value a little higher to make this possible?

 

[subtato]

I also seem to be pushed back when I sprint and jump in a 2x1 tunnel, because it is proven to speed you up faster than regular sprinting and jumping. Perhaps you could adjust the X value a little higher to make this possible?

I don't know where this value is in NoCheat. Even though it's a premade plugin, I don't know jack about other people's code. It's hard enough learning the MCSG code since it's originally nossr/Clank's

 

[DAL_9000]

I just think it was a lot easier to play in Beta, when noCheat didn't block your hits when you click too fast. I had no problem taking care of hackers before noCheat was this strong, but now you can just forget about it. Also, I rarely see hackers affected by noCheat, they can hit 4 people at one time, but the instant I hit a single person noCheat completely screws me over

 

[G33ke]

Development for an anticheat is especially hard, as it requires knowledge of all the hacks (I can create them - just can't block them) and how they work inside and out, the knowledge of what the normal value or max values of X items in Minecraft are supposed to be (i.e. max speed when sprinting and jumping), etc.

Even more complicated than that is other things that can effect the value - like sprint jumping on ice, it actually speeds you up a fair bit, enough that there was a point in time where a certain anti-cheating plugin that a server I used to play on used (might have been NoCheat.) actually had a few days at least where when you sprint jumped on ice, you would get pushed back from time to time. Remembering these little details can speed up the process, too...other things as well, like speed potions, and making it so you have to actually have the effect to travel at that speed...man, I'm glad I'm not a part of coding NCP, that sounds like a pain...just to come to forums like these and hear complaint after complaint.

 

[DAL_9000]

I know I'm probably coming off as an ignorant jerk, but I'm just saying that if I'm gonna donate to a server it should at least function correctly

 

[xBreakk]

I think NOCheat should be taken away, i can deal with hackers, atleast they are killable and i can get them banned. But no cheat is ruining the game for everyone. Yesterday i died to a guy with no armor and a stone sword and i have almost full iron and stone sword.

 

[Chezerony]

I just think it was a lot easier to play in Beta, when noCheat didn't block your hits when you click too fast. I had no problem taking care of hackers before noCheat was this strong, but now you can just forget about it. Also, I rarely see hackers affected by noCheat, they can hit 4 people at one time, but the instant I hit a single person noCheat completely screws me over

I know I'm probably coming off as an ignorant jerk, but I'm just saying that if I'm gonna donate to a server it should at least function correctly

couldn't of said it any better