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The truth about PvP

MoLoToV

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lets be real here. no one come here to play anygame but mcsg. no1 plays anything else for real.
If you wish to be short sighted like that, that's fine by me. However, I do suggest you to take a step back and look at the whole picture insteed of only caring about what YOU find important.
 

eThug

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If you wish to be short sighted like that, that's fine by me. However, I do suggest you to take a step back and look at the whole picture insteed of only caring about what YOU find important.
i dont find this mind numbing game important at all. im simply telling you the truth lmao
 

Ceroria

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i dont find this mind numbing game important at all. im simply telling you the truth lmao
I've been playing MCSG for 2 and a half years and I've spent plenty of time on our other gamemodes, yes it's true that most of it is MCSG but people do play our other gamemodes.

You want the "truth"? The truth is that we're a network supported by our large Survival Games player-base with some kther minigames that people play to mix things up a little.
 

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Let's all agree on the fact that you've created a really competitive community, and if you want to maintain it you need to listen to your player's toughts before changing the pvp by updating your server to completely 1.8.

This decision would be genious if you were just a minigames server like mineplex, but you're not, and that's why you made a giant mistake if you're still wanting to have a competitive community, you may say that your player number increases but that's because for every respectable player that quits your server there come 7 randies(from which probably about 4 are hacking) in the place. You're on your way to become a typical minigames server.

You would probably throw in the 1.6-1.7 update in this discussion, and how players have reacted the same way, but there are many factors that show that this change is completely on another scale, and I'll list them here.
  • 1. Did the FPS change? NO, and don't tell me about VBOs I already know about this and I can say that for 50% of the people it leads to a crash or no improvement, this is not a reliable fix for the fps problem.
  • 2. Did the pvp fysics change? NO, apart from the sprint key but this had 2 sides: the people that supported it(50%) and the people against it(50%). When 1.8 came out the big majority of players were against it, probably like 80%.
  • Did bugs occur? YES, but they fixed it all in future updates. I've tried out 1.8 and I saw 0 major bugs fixed. I'll leave screenshots here as proof.
Of course there were good things in 1.8 like the decreased bow-and roddelay and the new blocks. But the bad outweighs the good.

Hope you enjoyed this long post.

edit: screenshots: http://prntscr.com/6j8j08 http://prntscr.com/6j8kh1 http://prntscr.com/6j8lpl
 
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Electrix

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Let's all agree on the fact that you've created a really competitive community, and if you want to maintain it you need to listen to your player's toughts before changing the pvp by updating your server to completely 1.8.

This decision would be genious if you were just a minigames server like mineplex, but you're not, and that's why you made a giant mistake if you're still wanting to have a competitive community, you may say that your player number increases but that's because for every respectable player that quits your server there come 7 randies(from which probably about 4 are hacking) in the place. You're on your way to become a typical minigames server.

You would probably throw in the 1.6-1.7 update in this discussion, and how players have reacted the same way, but there are many factors that show that this change is completely on another scale, and I'll list them here.
  • 1. Did the FPS change? NO, and don't tell me about VBOs I already know about this and I can say that for 50% of the people it leads to a crash or no improvement, this is not a reliable fix for the fps problem.
  • 2. Did the pvp fysics change? NO, apart from the sprint key but this had 2 sides: the people that supported it(50%) and the people against it(50%). When 1.8 came out the big majority of players were against it, probably like 80%.
  • Did bugs occur? YES, but they fixed it all in future updates. I've tried out 1.8 and I saw 0 major bugs fixed. I'll leave screenshots here as proof.
Of course there were good things in 1.8 like the decreased bow-and roddelay and the new blocks. But the bad outweighs the good.

Hope you enjoyed this long post.
Are you suggesting that we should waste at least a month of developing going back to 1.7, then wait until 1.9 comes out? We would just lose even more community members if we switched like that. If PvP changes again in 1.9, then we'd have half the community complaining about how much different it is.

Besides, the decision has already been made, no reason to complain about changes that happened 2 months ago.
 

Sevy

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Are you suggesting that we should waste at least a month of developing going back to 1.7, then wait until 1.9 comes out? We would just lose even more community members if we switched like that.

Besides, the decision has already been made, no reason to complain about changes that happened 2 months ago.
Where did I say that you need to change it? I know it's impossible, I just pointed out that you've made a huge mistake. And besides why convert back to 1.7? You can just make it back compatible whilst waiting for 1.9. Other servers do it, why can't this server do it?
 

Electrix

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Where did I say that you need to change it? I know it's impossible, I just pointed out that you've made a huge mistake. And besides why convert back to 1.7? You can just make it back compatible whilst waiting for 1.9. Other servers do it, why can't this server do it?
Okay, we get it, your opinion is that 1.8 only was a bad idea.
 

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I really don't care about all the people leaving MCGamer because of 1.8, those sorts of people shouldn't have been in the community in the first place.
 

eThug

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I've been playing MCSG for 2 and a half years and I've spent plenty of time on our other gamemodes, yes it's true that most of it is MCSG but people do play our other gamemodes.

You want the "truth"? The truth is that we're a network supported by our large Survival Games player-base with some kther minigames that people play to mix things up a little.
ye ive been playing since beta and i have spent like 10 hours on survival when it was up. other than that i play mcsg :// zz
 

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