To the depressed user's of MCGamer.

[OhFancy]

Alright, lately I have noticed a bit of depressing/suicidal posts on the forums and I think it's time that someone made a thread like this. With that being said, on with the thread.

Like I said, lately I have noticed posts about depression/suicide coming up here and there and quite frankly I think it needs to end. With saying that, I am in no way attacking people with mental illnesses, as I have depression too, I just feel this thread needed to be addressed. Depression and Suicide are obviously not good things and probably is a topic not needed to be spoken about on the forums. I completely understand that the forums are a place for you to 'let loose' knowing someone will be there for you no matter what. I know that because I used to do it. I used to want to have the feeling that someone had my back if I fell, it's a good feeling so I completely understand why you would do it. But I think it needs to stop.

I know your views on me may be that I have a heart if stone, I don't. People just need to realize that not everyone can help, no one on these forums are qualified or have taken courses that qualify them to be able to help you, the only users you can talk to are the users you can relate to (Users that have overcome the illness and know some advice to give). The truth is not very many people care. I know that is a harsh statement and I know there are good people that are out there but not everyone cares, you'll get a lot of good comments but at the same time one negative comment can ruin your whole mindset/mood. I don't want to remove the whole idea of venting either, everyone needs to at one point vent or let it all out, it's natural and good for your mental health. Coming onto this server and speaking to my friends was for me a great way to escape or unwind from reality and I recommend you still do that if you have depressing thoughts or just feel sad.

Going back onto my other point, not many people on this server can help you, there are people in reality that can help and are trained to help, there are multiple helplines in your country/region that are willing to help,
speak to your parent(s), your family outside of your parent(s), they are all willing to help, MCGamer isn't the first resort for help. I'm not qualified professional, but it makes sense to seek people that can deliver sound, or advice over latter.

TL;DR; MCGamer isn't the place to broadcast your mental welfare or state, instead go and get help from professional advice-givers, family or friends.

Rant over. Again, in no way am I trying to ridicule or attack people with depression/suicidal thoughts or tendencies, I respect them and can relate to them a lot, I just think this needed to be said, the idea of this thread was to not cause or try to start flame, but potentially help people in-need of assistance.

-OhFancy/ProHighJacker signing off.


All credit to Lieutenant for making this thread on another Forum site.

 

[Mooclan]

As a person who's gone through and dealt with depression, I understand where this is coming from.
Yeah, sure - if you post a thread about it, odds are most of the comments are going to be positive, supporting, and maybe even a little bit healing, but there are and always will be negative people who just want to tear you down for no reason - Making a thread about it makes you a lot easier for those people to find, and you run the risk of being abused or put down. If you're facing depression, something like that can be multiplied within your mind, and the memory of it could resurface at any time in order to trouble or disturb you. It's not something that you should risk.

Also, none of us will know exactly what to say. We might accidentally say something wrong, or just not be able to say anything at all.
If you're facing depression and/or suicidal thoughts, my best advice is to talk about it, in private, with people who can help you. Those who have gone through similar experiences or rough times, or are fit to counsel and discuss it with you. You can do it over Skype, TeamSpeak, or PM, whatever works best for you - But posting on the forums, where anyone can comment and butt-in, isn't a good idea.

It's okay to include a little mention of your depression within a thread, but don't make it the main topic of a thread or post, otherwise it highlights you as a target.


ALSO
I'd like to bring up the issue of stalkers.
Stalkers often target those who are mentally weak. Someone who is innocent, naive, and clueless.
Stalkers also target people who are facing depression. Why?
People in depression often need something to cheer them up, and will "cling" to the first thing that does it.

For example, Teddy Bear is facing depression. He is really sad, and has no friends. Stuffed Koala (who's secretly a stalker) comes along and says, "Oh, you're beautiful!1!", "Don't feel like that! You have so much to live for!" and "If you need to talk, I'm always here!"
Teddy Bear might think, 'Oh, Koala, why thank you! <3' and then through that, they might develop a sense of trust for Stuffed Koala, and maybe even disclose personal details that they normally wouldn't, or let them into their lives a bit more than they should.

#Stalker101_With_Mooclan

 

[OhFancy]

As a person who's gone through and dealt with depression, I understand where this is coming from.
Yeah, sure - if you post a thread about it, odds are most of the comments are going to be positive, supporting, and maybe even a little bit healing, but there are and always will be negative people who just want to tear you down for no reason - Making a thread about it makes you a lot easier for those people to find, and you run the risk of being abused or put down. If you're facing depression, something like that can be multiplied within your mind, and the memory of it could resurface at any time in order to trouble or disturb you. It's not something that you should risk.

Also, none of us will know exactly what to say. We might accidentally say something wrong, or just not be able to say anything at all.
If you're facing depression and/or suicidal thoughts, my best advice is to talk about it, in private, with people who can help you. Those who have gone through similar experiences or rough times, or are fit to counsel and discuss it with you. You can do it over Skype, TeamSpeak, or PM, whatever works best for you - But posting on the forums, where anyone can comment and butt-in, isn't a good idea.

It's okay to include a little mention of your depression within a thread, but don't make it the main topic of a thread or post, otherwise it highlights you as a target.


ALSO
I'd like to bring up the issue of stalkers.
Stalkers often target those who are mentally weak. Someone who is innocent, naive, and clueless.
Stalkers also target people who are facing depression. Why?
People in depression often need something to cheer them up, and will "cling" to the first thing that does it.

For example, Teddy Bear is facing depression. He is really sad, and has no friends. Stuffed Koala (who's secretly a stalker) comes along and says, "Oh, you're beautiful!1!", "Don't feel like that! You have so much to live for!" and "If you need to talk, I'm always here!"
Teddy Bear might think, 'OhKoala, why thank you! <3' and then through that, they might develop a sense of trust for Stuffed Koala, and maybe even disclose personal details that they normally wouldn't, or let them into their lives a bit more than they should.

#Stalker101_With_Mooclan

<3

 

[ShakeSchack]

First, I'm glad you said this as nice as it could be said in comparison to all the other people who complain about it.

Second, these threads may be a reason to get support, and I think it is fine. It is probably their way of coping with it. As my mom always says, "it's better to let your feelings out than to bottle them in" (if course I don't listen to it because I like to bottle it in). If they feel they need to tell people what is going on in their life, let them do it. It may bother a few people that they made a thread about it, but if it bothers them they don't have to look at it.

Third, these people may be looking for support, but the thing is, the forums might not be the best place for them to get it, so I think that if they do post it here, they will get assaulted by hateful comments, which could create more of a problem.

These are my opinions on the matter, I can see reason for them to make a thread or not, but whatever their choice is we should support it because they are going through tough times, which a few of us know what they feel like.

 

[PandasM8]

This is a really good idea and I'm sure it will help.

 

[duckluv321]

I think something else that a lot of people miss out on, is that depression is not "my friends didn't hang out with me today" or "someone called me a name at school once", depression is a serious medical condition that is the result of long periods of enduring things like that, and it's something that is extremely difficult to move away from.

You can feel depressed, but most people who feel depressed are not really depressed, if that makes any sense

I can only imagine that it feels like a kick in the face to people dealing with actual cases of depression to see people who so quickly label themselves as the same thing after one situation that didn't go their way. If you messed up in the school play, or the person you've had a crush on doesn't like you, the cause of that is not going to be depression. Like a mentioned before, there is a difference between feeling depressed, and being depressed.

If someone is legitimately dealing with a case of depression, it will take a lot more than some positive reinforcement on the forums. Though that feels great, clinical depression is something that needs to be dealt with by professionals, and can often only be helped by professionals, as it is much deeper than a simple worry, or sadness.

 

[Toast]

I've been quite inactive here lately and have not seen how many of these threads have been made, but I completely agree with this post. With my experiences with these mental illnesses myself, I could write a damn novel on the subject, but because I just spent the good part of an hour typing up something else, I'll keep this post brief.

When you are in a place outside reality like the internet, you are living a completely different life. Your IRL problems don't exist. Push them aside, nobody knows a damn thing about you, make a new name for yourself. When you re-enter reality, that's when you worry about it. I'm not going to stuff the "Get help" or "You can get through this" crap down your throat, because the odds of you completely recovering are slim. Coming to terms with and accepting the way things are are the best ways to do it, it takes time. Hell, it's been 8 months since I started this method and I still haven't been successful in doing so.

 

[AGFire2013]

I think something else that a lot of people miss out on, is that depression is not "my friends didn't hang out with me today" or "someone called me a name at school once", depression is a serious medical condition that is the result of long periods of enduring things like that, and it's something that is extremely difficult to move away from.

You can feel depressed, but most people who feel depressed are not really depressed, if that makes any sense

I can only imagine that it feels like a kick in the face to people dealing with actual cases of depression to see people who so quickly label themselves as the same thing after one situation that didn't go their way. If you messed up in the school play, or the person you've had a crush on doesn't like you, the cause of that is not going to be depression. Like a mentioned before, there is a difference between feeling depressed, and being depressed.

If someone is legitimately dealing with a case of depression, it will take a lot more than some positive reinforcement on the forums. Though that feels great, clinical depression is something that needs to be dealt with by professionals, and can often only be helped by professionals, as it is much deeper than a simple worry, or sadness.

And Ducky takes the words right out of my mouth again.

But yeah, seeking professional help is much better than posting on the forums. In here, you get positive but untrained comments but also have a risk of receiving rude and inappropriate comments that could easily knock down that wall of support you've started building with the nicer comments.

Edit: Sorry if my writing's not really clear, it's kind of late

 

[ShakeSchack]

Coming to terms with and accepting the way things are are the best ways to do it.

I second this ^

 

[OhFancy]

I've been quite inactive here lately and have not seen how many of these threads have been made, but I completely agree with this post. With my experiences with these mental illnesses myself, I could write a damn novel on the subject, but because I just spent the good part of an hour typing up something else, I'll keep this post brief.

When you are in a place outside reality like the internet, you are living a completely different life. Your IRL problems don't exist. Push them aside, nobody knows a damn thing about you, make a new name for yourself. When you re-enter reality, that's when you worry about it. I'm not going to stuff the "Get help" or "You can get through this" crap down your throat, because the odds of you completely recovering are slim. Coming to terms with and accepting the way things are are the best ways to do it, it takes time. Hell, it's been 8 months since I started this method and I still haven't been successful in doing so.

I totally agree with you and I third you post.

 

[Trilexium]

What I notice is that none of the threads are really considered to be depression but rather describe someone who's having a down period in his/her life and aren't really coming to terms with it. That is serious as it can potentially lead to mental health issues, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a clinically depressed state of mind which some make it out to be.

Suicide is a serious issue. It's a selfless act, a final resort to someone if they feel that down in the dumps. The implications of suicide not only pertain to the individual committing suicide, but the ones close to them, which is what most people having suicidal thoughts or commit suicide forget. It's important to be strong in these times, and if you have someone in your life who is having such desperate thoughts, be there for them at all times. Give them positive thoughts, embrace positives of their life and remind them of what they have to look forward to in their life.

 

[Chris]

I find that suicide is by far one of the most selfish things you could possibly do. I also feel there is almost no reason to do so. Depression can be a major cause of this but you can very simply get both medical and psychiatric help. I realize it sometime won't help but your years in school/childhood are only a small portion of your life. Try to think about what's going on now. Your childhood shapes your future .