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Lucid Dreaming

What do you think about Lucid Dreaming?

  • It's really interesting: I might try it

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  • It's interesting, but nothing that interests me

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • I have no interest in this

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Trilexium

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Never had a lucid dream, but I'm no stranger to these phenomena. You know when something happens in real life and you think to yourself, "I feel as if I knew this was going to happen!"? Like, somebody you meet says or does something totally random and out of the blue, and when they've done/said what they were going to, you feel as if you have experienced or knew that was going to happen, but unconsciously. This is what I experience, otherwise known as extra-sensory perception or precognition.

Would like to have a *good and risk free* lucid dream though- sounds interesting.
 

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Lucid dreams are awesome! I became immensely fascinated with these around two years ago. Once you are inside one, you can essentially do whatever you want. You realize that you exist inside a dream. You do not need to obey physical laws, yet you have knowledge of your waking world and command of a fake world.

To achieve a lucid dream is a most remarkable accomplishment. There are two ways to obtain one. The first is by realizing midway through a dream that the situation must be a dream because of outlandishness or another hint from a reality check. The second is by going straight from a waking state to a dreaming state while maintaining control of the fact that you are falling asleep. The first path is actually more realistic.

Common methods:
  1. Keep a dream journal. Spend ~10 minutes each morning recording anything you can about the dream you had that night. This increases your ability to recall dreams and their intensity. It also increases your chances of having spontaneous lucidity in a dream. Also, if you can't remember your dreams, who cares if you had a lucid dream or not?
  2. Familiarize yourself with the process of falling asleep. This will help you realize the differences in the laws (or lack thereof) between the waking and dreaming worlds. It will increase the likelihood of going straight from a state of wakefulness to subconsciousness to sleep while maintaining self-awareness.
  3. This is my favorite-reality checks. Throughout your everyday life, spend time checking if you are in reality. This must become a regular habit. One good reality check you can try is pushing your hand on a door to see if your hand goes through. In most dreams, your hand will actually go through. You can also look at an alarm clock. In reality it will contain only numerals. In a dream, it could contain a message or contain random letters and symbols. Do reality checks in places that you find yourself in a lot, or where you experience extreme emotions, like a school hallway. You could try opening random lockers in a school hallway every time you say "hi" to someone. In reality they won't open, but in a dream they probably would, just because dreams are always crazy like that. Maybe you could even do reality checks in MCSG, since you probably dream about that a fair amount. Try double tapping space bar every time you open a chest to see if you can fly, for example. Dreams often involve very strong emotions. Every time you experience intense fear, anger, or elation in real life you can make yourself recall every location you have been in in the past hour. Dreams rarely last over an hour, so you will come up blank when you ask yourself that question in a dream. If you can use any type of reality check and make if a habit, it will show up in a dream eventually, and you will have yourself a lucid dream, which is very exciting, but don't get too excited.
Be aware that once you are in a lucid dream, you may be in control, but you have a high chance of waking up once you do realize. You can spin around in circles or rub your hands together, which stimulates your brain and legitimizes your dream body, causing your dream to be prolonged. You can also do math by starting to double... 2... 4... 8... 16... 32... You can also examine something finely, which enhances lucidity in the moment. Most of the time it is best to closely examine your hands, or better yet, a scar on your hand, since much of reality goes out of focus once you realize you are in a lucid dream and the excitement kicks in.

Should you grab hold of a lucid dream, it will probably only last a few seconds, (too much excitement) but with practice and research, you will learn how to make dreams that can last as long as an hour in real life. Also, don't be too bummed out if you wake up and start your normal day, it is common for people to think they have woken up, but have only woken up in a dream, which is a called a "false awakening." That is why it is good to do a reality check first thing every morning.

Lucid dreams are awesome, but I've only managed to have a couple that lasted a few seconds. Good luck to you all!
 

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if you want to lucid dream, take acid or shrooms, i hear you can lucid dream awake with these substances
 

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I dream about MCSG sometimes. Funnily enough, my brain can actually simulate realistic games, not just me winning every time. Kinda off topic but I thought I'd say that. Also I've never had a lucid dream, never even knew what is was before I read this.
 

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I guess you could say I've had a half-lucid dream. One night I had a dream, then realized that it was a just dream relatively early on. Ironically the dream just kinda went screwy on me where I couldn't do anything I wanted to, despite the fact I knew it was a dream. It was like I was on a pre-determined path and just had to sit around and let things happen, while knowing none of it is real.
 

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Lucid Dreaming? :eek: Oh, so this is it.
It really intrigues me, and sounds very fascinating. I would possibly be interested in researching this further.

After looking through some of the symptoms, I've come to a conclusion - As a child, I used to have several lucid dreams.
Many of my dreams used to take place in a certain house in Western Canada. There was a porch on the backside of the house, and an apple tree in the back yard. I remember very clearly making myself do certain actions, such as "bicycle flying" (It's a long story..) from the ground to between the porch and the apple tree. Also, jumping from the porch and then having it crumble behind me as I fell was something that I particularly enjoyed doing. Walking down the stairs backwards was something I often did when I had a relatively scary dream. (I remember one nightmare very clearly about a clown with a vacuum at the top of the stairs while I walked backwards down it.)

*porch means balcony, when I lived there I used the word porch instead of balcony, so it seems appropriate to describe it this way.

I have one question, though - Is it possible that you might not wake up?
 

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I guess you could say I've had a half-lucid dream. One night I had a dream, then realized that it was a just dream relatively early on. Ironically the dream just kinda went screwy on me where I couldn't do anything I wanted to, despite the fact I knew it was a dream. It was like I was on a pre-determined path and just had to sit around and let things happen, while knowing none of it is real.
This is rather common. There are varying levels of awareness that one is lucid dreaming. They range anywhere from a practically nonexistent, subconscious awareness to the point where you are literally making stuff appear out of nowhere with your own willpower. Also, you may not be able to control the dream unless you try. I guess you have to have been told that lucid dreams can be controlled and you have to be very awake within your dream, so to speak.
Lucid Dreaming? :eek: Oh, so this is it.
It really intrigues me, and sounds very fascinating. I would possibly be interested in researching this further.

After looking through some of the symptoms, I've come to a conclusion - As a child, I used to have several lucid dreams.
Many of my dreams used to take place in a certain house in Western Canada. There was a porch on the backside of the house, and an apple tree in the back yard. I remember very clearly making myself do certain actions, such as "bicycle flying" (It's a long story..) from the ground to between the porch and the apple tree. Also, jumping from the porch and then having it crumble behind me as I fell was something that I particularly enjoyed doing. Walking down the stairs backwards was something I often did when I had a relatively scary dream. (I remember one nightmare very clearly about a clown with a vacuum at the top of the stairs while I walked backwards down it.)

*porch means balcony, when I lived there I used the word porch instead of balcony, so it seems appropriate to describe it this way.

I have one question, though - Is it possible that you might not wake up?
That's cool that you have had similar dreams over and over. If you research it, you may reveal things about your innermost personality and desires that you didn't even know! :O I tend to have that awful dream a lot where you are walking through your house with MASSIVE dead 2-foot diameter spiders all over the place. Then one jumps out at you and you either fight to the death or wake up...

Why wouldn't you wake up from a dream?
 

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It's happened to me around 3 times, but I only remember 2.
It was reaaalllyyyy cool though
 

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! :O I tend to have that awful dream a lot where you are walking through your house with MASSIVE dead 2-foot diameter spiders all over the place. Then one jumps out at you and you either fight to the death or wake up...

Why wouldn't you wake up from a dream?
Ooh, snap, sounds creepy.

I read somewhere (I forget where) that sometimes if you are too involved in a dream, it can prevent you from waking up.
Edit: And that the only way to wake up would be to receive external stimulus such as someone shaking you or pouring ice water, or shouting at you, etc.
 

Blazerboy | Noah

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oh i dream about Lucidictive all the time

edit - on a serious note, i've had a few of these, but i'm not really willing to say what i did in them.... except for the one where i was a famous criminal who robbed a bank, but was gunned down right as i awoke.
 

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Ooh, snap, sounds creepy.

I read somewhere (I forget where) that sometimes if you are too involved in a dream, it can prevent you from waking up.
Edit: And that the only way to wake up would be to receive external stimulus such as someone shaking you or pouring ice water, or shouting at you, etc.
I have never heard of this happening to someone, but I believe it's possible. For those of you who don't know, you go through hour-and-a-half sleep cycles while you sleep. So if you sleep for a healthy nine hours, you go through six cycles. During these cycles, you go from light sleep, to medium sleep, to deep sleep, to R.E.M. sleep, which is the scary portion of sleep. Then you go backwards again...

Often times during the light sleep stage you wake up, but not always. Also, dreams occur in all phases, but they differ. In lighter sleep, your body is not completely paralyzed yet, and your dreams are more like thoughts than stories. If you think your are about to get ran over by a giant marshmallow, you will jerk awake in light sleep. However, you typically cannot wake up from deep/R.E.M. sleep very easily.

What is interesting in dreams during the various stages is that light sleep dreams are much swifter, and do not activate the brain in as many areas or as much in general. During R.E.M. sleep, (named after rapid eye movement) time in dreams slows down to match real time, and your brains fires up just like it does in real life. R.E.M. dreams, as stated before, are scary. They are frighteningly realistic and are more likely to be negative and play on your fears and desires than other dreams. Your body is completely paralyzed at that point, so you typically cannot wake up unless you get shot in the dream or fall off a cliff, etc... Not all R.E.M. dreams are awful, but they are the ones that are designed to prepare us for the real world, which is often not a nice place.

The sleep cycles have more deep sleep during the late night hours, from 1:00 to 6:00 A.M., so sleeping too much during those periods and not enough before midnight can cause an individual to get too much R.E.M. sleep, and actually contribute to depression and a bleak outlook on life.

When you do wake up in the morning after all that complicated stuff, most people say they either don't remember their dreams or they didn't have any. In fact, as long as you have slept, you have dreamt, unless you have a severe and rare sleeping disorder. Humans typically only remember 10% of their dreams the morning of, and they can be quickly forgotten throughout the day because they have the label of "useless information" in your mind. The mind throws out many dream memories as quickly as possible because many of them are pointless and unrelated to the real world, but if you really want to remember dreams, don't move around a whole bunch as soon as you wake up. Stay put and try to recall what you dreamt about. Moving a major muscle, such as the bicep in your arm, clears your memory of the night, unless you have recited it and thought about it already.

On rare occasion, an individual will be unable to move when they wake up because the paralysis caused by deep sleep does not ware off when one awakes. This means you will have to sit there until it does, which could take up to a half hour, or just a few minutes. If this happens to you, you can try moving small muscles and moving onto bigger ones, such as your eyelids or fingers.

Another interesting thing that can happen when you wake up is... not waking up. As I stated in an earlier post, lucid dreams often have the effect of overexciting individuals and causing them to wake up for real, or maybe just waking up in the dream and going through a daily routine in the dream. So maybe next time you wake up in the morning, try to fly. It just might work. :)

Edit: I didn't really answer your question, but I'd assume you are talking about waking paralysis, being really tired, or a sleeping disorder? I think sleep cycles generally do a good job of making sure you wake up eventually, but sleep cycles are not perfect, as they can involve more deep sleep when you are more tired and in the early morning hours. No one stays asleep forever, though.
 
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