MCSG Regen Hack Problem

[reven86]

regen hackers easy to catch.. hard to kill xD

I'm sure the devs will do something soon

 

[Mamiamato24]

Sure, we can overuse the saying "They're working on it.", but are they really? It seems as if they're working on a lot of other projects at the moment, including reviving MCTF2. I'm not saying this is a bad thing; I completely condone the transfer in priorities, but what we have to realize is that we all have a voice in the community. We're the ones that are going to make this place a better one, whether it's recording hackers or knocking some common sense into certain staff member's heads.
So, are they really working on it?

We can only hope.

(But yes, that sounds like a good idea)

 

[reven86]

Sure, we can overuse the saying "They're working on it.", but are they really? It seems as if they're working on a lot of other projects at the moment, including reviving MCTF2. I'm not saying this is a bad thing; I completely condone the transfer in priorities, but what we have to realize is that we all have a voice in the community. We're the ones that are going to make this place a better one, whether it's recording hackers or knocking some common sense into certain staff member's heads.
So, are they really working on it?

We can only hope.

(But yes, that sounds like a good idea)

you'd think that hackers would be their number 1 priority right now? They are overrunning the servers hardcore..

 

[Mamiamato24]

you'd think that hackers would be their number 1 priority right now? They are overrunning the servers hardcore..

I don't know, I haven't seen a major increase of them recently, but a lot of people have.
I'm just saying that it isn't set in stone that this is their major priority, since Dave just leaked a photo of MCTF2 earlier today.

 

[reven86]

I don't know, I haven't seen a major increase of them recently, but a lot of people have.
I'm just saying that it isn't set in stone that this is their major priority, since Dave just leaked a photo of MCTF2 earlier today.

well US servers aren't filled with them. Its the EU servers which aren't moderated much due to lack of mods. I can't speak for AU and CA but EU is horrible xD.

 

[NyanCaatt]

I'm sure if they could've done something, they would've.
The plugins hive has may be exclusively for hive.

 

[Revolosity]

Look you have to think... MCSG has over 1 million members. The staff especially the admins and Devs and all the higher staff have so much demand that it would be impossible for them to meet all the demands in the time frame that people want. I'm sure they are aware of it and if they say they are working on it, I would take their word for it. If you do see someone using hacks or regen or anything that they are not supposed to do.. Just follow the proper channels and gather all the info and evidence you can and report it on the proper spot on the forums. But lets give the higher staff a little more credit ok. Also if everyone bans together and starts to record more and report more hackers with actual evidence we as members can help staff control the outbreak of hackers, that MCSG is currently experiencing!

 

[*Sean]

I definitely agree. MCSG should add plugins that help to stop all hacks, not just regen. Surely there must be someway to lessen the amount of people using the same hack. I'm not a developer so I don't know entirely, but I hope there will be someday

 

[DistractHD]

Isn't it that the console detects a "hack" and then they get banned?

 

[TomahawkGoesChop]

Isn't it that the console detects a "hack" and then they get banned?

When a client is using, BMS, for a example, it sends information of using it to the server, and thats why you cant log into mcsg with it. If a client is using hacks, it doesnt send the information to the server, for obvious reasons.


And also, the reason hive stops regen hackers, is because they dont have golden apples in chests. If mcsg got rid of golden apples (Not saying it should), it would be easier to make such a plugin.

 

[Le0]

It's all very well saying "Give us a plugin that stops regen hackers!"

...but in reality that's a pretty hard task. I'm not a dev, not a coder. I'm going to be speaking from my own knowledge of such matters. Basically, the reason we can catch BSM is because BSM clients send a things saying "Hey, I'm using BSM!" To the server. Which our plugin can pick up on and bar you from entering. Regen hacks, however, have no such lovely message announcing their presence. You probably don't know it, but NCP (no cheat +) already picks up on regen hackers. Admins get alerted to everything NCP picks up on in the game, which basically means that I see all the notifications that are sent out on my client.

So, currently NCP picks up on regen hackers:

This makes it very easy for myself or other admins to see who is misbehaving. However, it's not perfect. I get many false positives. NCP generally picks up more false positives than actual hackers. The only way I actually suspect people of being hackers when getting these alerts is if they set off a lot of them (that or they have a super high VL). But even then it's not certain.

Where I am going with this: our current plugin detects them. But our current plugin does not act on them. If it did, if NCP (or similar) started kicking or banning people for regen hacks automatically, there would be a looot of unfair kicks bans due to the amount of false positives. Even setting it to an extremely high tolerance, where only the extreme regen hackers get screened out, would still have some people falsly punished, when people eat, lag, etc.

TL;DR: People who don't use regen hacks would be kicked/banned for regen hacks.

 

[xExterminate]

I don't think Hive has a plugin for it, I'm pretty sure they disabled the god apple effect since that is what regen hacks use.