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Umm Fox I would think that mods represent the server more than any VIP could, like it or not they know more of what's actually happening than us
Do moderators influence massive amounts of players to the point everyone is wearing their skin? Just an example. If a Youtuber shows that a moderator is abusing their power, is that the moderator influencing the server, or the youtuber? Youtubers and VIP's have more influence on what the servers image is.

But even so, that is irrelevant to my comment to him—as someone I've seen on this forum for years now.

I'm allowed to help out anyway I can to help the community and make it a peaceful and respectful place. Also I do represent the server because you don't want mods going around breaking the rules and doing disrespectful things to everyone. So I do represent the server :)
Helping out? Is helping out truly sugarcoating things? Ever since I've known, helping out is saying things how they truly are and accepting there is a mistake and start from there. It isn't your community, you are just part of it, so to believe you can represent anything, that is selfish. Disrespect and acting are almost the same branch: one is dislike, the other becomes dislike for the sake of acting in a way you have only seen, not learned. Don't be devious, be pretentious, but never believe you have to be modest because of the mistakes of others.
 

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Do moderators influence massive amounts of players to the point everyone is wearing their skin? Just an example. If a Youtuber shows that a moderator is abusing their power, is that the moderator influencing the server, or the youtuber? Youtubers and VIP's have more influence on what the servers image is.

But even so, that is irrelevant to my comment to him—as someone I've seen on this forum for years now.



Helping out? Is helping out truly sugarcoating things? Ever since I've known, helping out is saying things how they truly are and accepting there is a mistake and start from there. It isn't your community, you are just part of it, so to believe you can represent anything, that is selfish. Disrespect and acting are almost the same branch: one is dislike, the other becomes dislike for the sake of acting in a way you have only seen, not learned. Don't be devious, be pretentious, but never believe you have to be modest because of the mistakes of others.
When you become a moderator you have to "help out". I don't sit in a channel and just ignore all the messages coming my way of hackers and rule breakers. I plan on helping until I resign or get demoted. :)
 

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When you become a moderator you have to "help out". I don't sit in a channel and just ignore all the messages coming my way of hackers and rule breakers. I plan on helping until I resign or get demoted. :)
And in that you are correct. But helping out isn't pontificating, helping out is relating. How will anyone feel comfortable with a robot that speaks objectively and not wisely. Replying conceitedly and not replying is the same thing: not helping. Be nonchalant, not a robot, be yourself, and look forward to improving all situations, rather than believing that enunciating the rules is being helpful.
 

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Here's what happened:
- Everyone started cheating
- The staff think they understand the clan community/active playerbase
- Minecraft overall became pretty stale
 

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I've already been talked to about the situation, yes I agree that I should of choose different words and not showed my maturity and professional side on another server, but you don't know the feelings of being drained from 2000 to 1800. So it was just a one moment thing, sorry about it kind sir. I'll make sure it doesn't happen again, sorry to disappoint you. But trust me I'm not the only moderator that has done something like that, and there's been far worse ones before :)

I believe you're right about the robot part, it's just that I am new to the staff team I want to act mature, respectful, kind to everyone. I don't want to type how I did before I got mod, because it would look unprofessional. I don't know I'll try.
 

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I've already been talked to about the situation, yes I agree that I should of choose different words and not showed my maturity and professional side on another server, but you don't know the feelings of being drained from 2000 to 1800. So it was just a one moment thing, sorry about it kind sir. I'll make sure it doesn't happen again, sorry to disappoint you. But trust me I'm not the only moderator that has done something like that, and there's been far worse ones before :) Also to clarify something, I do have the Needs Training rank. Also I'm sure I've responded to every hacker report on the server. I kinda have to do more than one thing at a time, like handling your report and mute or banning another player for something else.

I believe you're right about the robot part, it's just that I am new to the staff team I want to act mature, respectful, kind to everyone. I don't want to type how I did before I got mod, because it would look unprofessional. I don't know I'll try.
Mature: physically full-grown.
Respect: a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.
Kind: having or showing a friendly, generous, and considerate nature.

How will you behave in a mature way when you are not even full-grown? Not insulting you, just merely telling the truth. How can you do something you have only seen, don't understand nor have learned?

Respectful is admiration, not prudence. You can't behave in a way that is not relevant. Furthermore, the antonym of respect isn't disrespect, they mean two different things. You should be someone that doesn't disrespects, someone with courtesy, someone prudent.

Being kind is being friendly and of considerate nature. being friendly means someone on good and affectionate terms. To know what is goodness, that only by logic you will know, for you have a conscience. however, goodness will not always be right, just like corruption will not always be wrong either. What is true is harmony, because living in harmony means living taking the best decision for each situation. And considerate nature is simply using logic, which is your conscience.
You are friendly to your friends because they are you friends. A friend is someone whom you have a bond of affection, and affection comes with responsibility. Responsibility is improvement, so take care of the people you are helping if you want to be friendly.

I am no one to tell you what is right or what is wrong, but I can tell you what is true and what isn't true. Unprofessional isn't mediocre, unprofessional isn't lying, unprofessional is something you don't want to be because everyone tells us it is wrong, but if being professional means being mediocre, lying and being conceited, then what will you choose?

Anyway, that is all.
 
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If what you're all saying is true, it's honestly a shame what the server has turned into.

For those who weren't around back then, MCSG or what is now "MCGamer" used to be one of the most prominent and influential servers and communities in the Minecraft realm.

Millions of players from around the world joined in on this recreation of the captivating tale of the Hunger Games.

Hell, we even got a section in Guinness's Video Game World Records.

Although the clan community always had tension, it was the most fun I'd ever had. The community was full of life. Every server you went into, you could find a friend or a rival to make a game that much better.

All I remember before I left was the staff being way too strict and many people acting immaturely. The survival server was incredible, I loved, many others loved it as well. It created an outlet for people who didn't want to play endless rounds of SG4. It was a factions server, and there was fights and tension and hacking, but it was all in good fun.

What did MCSG do? They deleted it in a few months. They added a disguise feature to segregate the community. People weren't friends anymore. False hacking accusations were thrown all over the place while unfair bans were handed out everywhere.

The server fell apart.

The lobbies full of friends and competition are gone. Hundreds of the new servers MCSG worked to implement lay empty at all hours of the day. Nearly every new gamemode that was created is never played.

It just sucks that such a legendary place no longer exists.
 

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If what you're all saying is true, it's honestly a shame what the server has turned into.

For those who weren't around back then, MCSG or what is now "MCGamer" used to be one of the most prominent and influential servers and communities in the Minecraft realm.

Millions of players from around the world joined in on this recreation of the captivating tale of the Hunger Games.

Hell, we even got a section in Guinness's Video Game World Records.

Although the clan community always had tension, it was the most fun I'd ever had. The community was full of life. Every server you went into, you could find a friend or a rival to make a game that much better.

All I remember before I left was the staff being way too strict and many people acting immaturely. The survival server was incredible, I loved, many others loved it as well. It created an outlet for people who didn't want to play endless rounds of SG4. It was a factions server, and there was fights and tension and hacking, but it was all in good fun.

What did MCSG do? They deleted it in a few months. They added a disguise feature to segregate the community. People weren't friends anymore. False hacking accusations were thrown all over the place while unfair bans were handed out everywhere.

The server fell apart.

The lobbies full of friends and competition are gone. Hundreds of the new servers MCSG worked to implement lay empty at all hours of the day. Nearly every new gamemode that was created is never played.

It just sucks that such a legendary place no longer exists.
Hopefully it will comeback soon, I'll make sure to bring back the old days of the server. I won't let you down man. :) I will mostly likely bring some stuff up in the meetings that could bring back the 2012/2013 days.
 

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Hopefully it will comeback soon, I'll make sure to bring back the old days of the server. I won't let you down man. :) I will mostly likely bring some stuff up in the meetings that could bring back the 2012/2013 days.
I'm going to be brutally honest. Nothing is going to bring back those days.

MCSG has been far too slow and far too reliant on their single good gamemode to ever return to the prominence it once had.

The game itself has evolved. Cheaters are no longer 12 year olds using forcefield and flyhacks ( though they still exist) - players, high up on this server's leaderboards, use ghostclients with more advanced, less detectable hacks. To combat something like that, you need an anticheat far stronger than what MCSG will develop. I'm sure it will ban the obvious hackers, but it won't deal with the ghostclienters. For that you have to have been like Badlion, developing a powerful anticheat before hack developers had even begun to think about bypassing something like that. MCSG needed to get out ahead of it. It didn't.

But it's not like the hacker issue is all of it. SG, as a gamemode, is dying. UHC, Skywars, and Pot PvP are in right now, and the current YouTube community reflects that. Youtubers who once relied on SG for all their videos are including more and more UHC and Skywars in their videos.

Then, of course, there's the community, once so small and peaceful. I remember going on AU and talking with the #1 player at the time, Elisha_Mutang, and teaming with him for a game. Everyone knew everyone, and things were nice.

Now I find a minimum of two teams a game, half the people are toxic, and targeting happens a lot.

Then there's the issue with glitches never getting fixed and the slow response of the dev team to, well, basically everything. A buggy, glitchy server used to cut it in the Minecraft serverscape, but other servers (Badlion, Kohi, and others) have raised the bar. MCSG slipped under it.

And that doesn't even begin to mention all the mistakes along the way. MCSG completely ignored their community by updating to 1.8, assuming all players were upset about nothing and that it would all boil over. It lost over half its playerbase and hasn't recovered. Don't even get me started on Solo SG, Battlegrounds, or "UHC Worlds".

Minecraft PvP has moved on. MCSG failed to keep up. Its time has passed.
 

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