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Petition - Change the deleting evidence rule. [200+ Signatures!]

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arsenal

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Problem: Deleting evidence even accidentally will result in a permaban (1st offense) for a user who was trying to help the community. For hackers it is a 7 day ban (1st offense) for someone who was doing harm to the community. Recently, some important players including Cscoop and Twee were perma banned for accidentally deleting evidence, and not being aware of the rule.


Solution: A lot of this has controversy has come from people disputing months after there ban was given. I say it is a 7 day 1st offense and permaban 2nd offense for deleting evidence within a month of the report. After a month, they are no longer obligated to keep the video on Youtube. The banned user has had plenty of time to dispute, and they can no longer dispute their ban if the evidence was deleted. If the staff feel that they need the evidence longer, they can screen record the video, so they have it on record. It is unfair to hold someone who was trying to help the community accountable for a video months after. What if they delete their channel and forget about the video?


Petition: To make this change happen, the community needs your support. Reply to this thread with, "I, [insert name here] would like to sign the petition." Then I will add your name to the list. Note: You don't have to agree 100% with the solution to sign, if you are signing you are saying that you want a change to the rules. That change does not necessarily have to be my exact solution.


Players who want change:

  1. arsenalfcgunners
  2. Sean
  3. Harris|DareDevilMan1
  4. Edog and Edog
  5. EricParazak
  6. Cscoop
  7. Jaan
  8. MinedAndCrafted5
  9. Damien // Teepwn
  10. Mamiamato24
  11. Ex0dUs101
  12. beep253
  13. TheMaskedDomo
  14. demonsushi
  15. WertQuadNine
  16. Mint_Sibs
  17. SuperxAndrew
  18. Unknown // Rainbow Derp
  19. AGFire2013
  20. Imanol_Magana
  21. NixGamez
  22. Sidopey
  23. shadowblaze12
  24. Ag | Alex
  25. Aedrift
  26. Joel Maury-Holmes
  27. Twee
  28. I_love_desk
  29. Twistology
  30. AlLuc
  31. mr_pendle
  32. Kerbals
  33. Kauff
  34. niek
  35. Attorah
  36. Jockster2002
  37. Groot
  38. Mooclan
  39. Crackling
  40. ToastySoldier_
  41. Manos
  42. Giolightning
  43. Smizack
  44. xPandq
  45. ChrisComedies
  46. Dantelius
  47. ThisJKid
  48. MeatalclawMC
  49. AuroraV2
  50. xPvPProdigyx
  51. NotCanziano
  52. Timtommytom
  53. Eathuis
  54. Ikanacanyon7
  55. justin69
  56. thedude2012
  57. Qyxr
  58. Frazzel
  59. PuffyCottonCandy
  60. Ranger_zZ
  61. PROxNIGGLES_25
  62. Cat_On_A_Poptart
  63. DoY0uEvenStrafe
  64. frozenpretzel
  65. Raibushi
  66. JCagg
  67. Fusionnuggets
  68. Znike1
  69. Pixelatorx2
  70. 547awesomeness
  71. Sim_Man
  72. RyanCx
  73. PaperVinnie53
  74. Shake_Junt00
  75. ItalianJesus
  76. XplodingKiwi
  77. Jam0919
  78. CashFloMoney
  79. Elryst
  80. DaGamerYT
  81. Scrape
  82. ttt6t
  83. CyberPIE
  84. HayHotshot
  85. rawriledino
  86. derrgand
  87. LampsyLegendMC
  88. MCOnThePCAndrew
  89. Metalmate9
  90. Knaala
  91. 420oz
  92. yannr00s
  93. ItsCheerry
  94. Yangervis
  95. swiitchbackz
  96. MizadorMC
  97. iBigNub
  98. zCrits_
  99. MineCell
  100. BaconUnicorn
  101. DrRustyPanda611
  102. EricDude01
  103. robbiemcfadden
  104. Bunns
  105. Slagguaron
  106. SertifiedBlocks
  107. ThatFuryFellow
  108. F34RL3555
  109. KrypticMC11
  110. Chris|Bro
  111. oshisomethingmeh
  112. FanYG
  113. FS_MonkeyDoesgames
  114. Flixo
  115. darmody101
  116. HomeyGaming
  117. TheFanManiac
  118. IronwoodWB
  119. RobertHDPotatoes
  120. IceWolf608
  121. Xentrik
  122. Lemonz87
  123. The_Man
  124. MiecraftSuperNatural
  125. JokoSwag
  126. WalkerRed
  127. ZachPlayzMC
  128. Lis
  129. Chipyy
  130. 10Hearted
  131. HohoPvP
  132. John jennings
  133. GOLD_ninja14
  134. Wyz_Guy
  135. JonJayMan
  136. Artic
  137. DatPikachu
  138. pepsizPower
  139. Fox
  140. overthetopgaming
  141. SAOtaku
  142. xExplore
  143. SupraDuck
  144. Sepyz
  145. GamingTB
  146. Zlim95
  147. Thekaiser
  148. Aldxelm
  149. Nick30Brodeur
  150. Culto
  151. dexcomg4
  152. EmperorsReborn
  153. Horsman4James
  154. BlueSyled
  155. Toe
  156. GamingNewfie
  157. PizzaSauceMC
  158. Darkskull401
  159. Greenrilla
  160. StaticPlayz
  161. ImNissen
  162. BlitzCometITU
  163. Eskild|Quadrum_
  164. iamjai1
  165. smcdo17
  166. SuperMang
  167. kipje1122
  168. Iametal
  169. Keno_Jewls
  170. Erenjaegar1203
  171. MineAroo
  172. xExterminate
  173. kingusa12
  174. Disruptor
  175. JempkoYT
  176. Devonas
  177. Vernza
  178. Minetime28
  179. Avesu
  180. swiitchbackz
  181. TheAfroNinja
  182. NickSharpx
  183. Henry
  184. _Rixton
  185. TheGamerScottie
  186. Geoffman88
  187. R1ck4stl3y
  188. corey2802
  189. Giggity69Goo
  190. shampoosh
  191. glowstoneguy
  192. Isoto
  193. Feller
  194. GoldenWave
  195. bcfcAnt
  196. QuantumTiger
  197. _Siqu
  198. Anthony2754
  199. xCrayfish
  200. TheBananaBros
  201. GenericLikeYou
  202. Miqraine
  203. resistantcorn12
  204. Yesh (DoodleBob91)
  205. ItsMustachio_
  206. billyguy1
  207. Zinc
  208. Domilz
  209. Kcinayy
  210. KingofGrapes
  211. Garren
  212. Buxtonaters
  213. HuahwiEqualsGod
  214. duckluv321
  215. Gabe1513
  216. NotCanziano
  217. theunknown07
  218. DrPoisonX
  219. TheBossKingHD
  220. zebba11
  221. Thapple
  222. stephaniemarie27
  223. Captain | Lqzer
  224. Miner9823
  225. TheSurvivalGamesCrew
  226. Newby_plays0801
  227. knifeinthebutter
  228. OreoTheLlama
  229. Nintendonuts
  230. Intense112_
  231. Miqraine
  232. resistantcorn12
  233. Ninja_Nick1689
  234. EnderSnapple
  235. Jadarko
  236. RC_4777
Update:
A change in the report abuse template has been made do to your support!
Note: This change is minor, but yet I think it should be praised. It will help spread awareness for this rule. However, it does not fix all my concerns stated above. Including perma ban on first offense, and that you are required to keep the evidence on your channel for ever.
New template:
In-Game name:
Gametype:
Region:
Reason:
Proof:
Key Times on Video [Optional]:
Time, Date, and Server [Optional]:
I [insert name here] agree that in submitting
this report that all MCGamer terms of service
are being followed to the correct extent and
that should I remove or do anything to tamper
with the evidence I provide, I may be liable
to being punished.
 
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EricParazak

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that petitions are allowed anymore after the rebellion against Dave back in May.
 

arsenal

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that petitions are allowed anymore after the rebellion against Dave back in May.
There was just the AS petition, the staff were fine with that since it was harmless. This one is just a suggestion for a change for the better of the community, it does not target a particular person, and is harmless too.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that petitions are allowed anymore after the rebellion against Dave back in May.
Hmmm not sure. But this one is constructive and the community has givin valid points and a petition shows that the community wants a change. Also it is a peacefully way of asking for change. Lastly the previous petition was slanderous and on change.org where users could not be identified and just led to abuse where as this one can be moderated and kept peacefull.
 

EricParazak

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There was just the AS petition, the staff were fine with that since it was harmless. This one is just a suggestion for a change for the better of the community, it does not target a particular person, and is harmless too.
Hmmm not sure. But this one is constructive and the community has givin valid points and a petition shows that the community wants a change. Also it is a peacefully way of asking for change. Lastly the previous petition was slanderous and on change.org where users could not be identified and just led to abuse where as this one can be moderated and kept peacefull.
Well then, if that's the case, count me in!
 
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