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zoplik90

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Most of you wouldn't recognize my name, but that doesn't mean I don't see what you see. Recently, the amount of teamers in MCSG has skyrocketed because of YouTube, clans, and because teaming is more fun than playing solo. It's impossible to take out all teaming in regular MCSG even if we tried, but why not create another version called SMCSG (solo MCSG)? In this new version, the leaderboards would be the same as MCSG ones (if your rank is 7000 in MCSG it would be 7000 in SMCSG) and teaming would be bannable in SMCSG. I'm not sure about death match, but I'm thinking that it would be 4 people or 2 people.
 

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Hmm, This could work. I have to say there's a lot of teams, However you'll get that on any SG server. We just have to put up with it. Anyways good idea. Hopefully player's would like it.
 

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Dude I know you're new but we all have felt with teamers. This is so unnecessary. And the teaming being bannable? Really? That would. Ring the community down​
 

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Hmm, This could work. I have to say there's a lot of teams, However you'll get that on any SG server. We just have to put up with it. Anyways good idea. Hopefully player's would like it.
Thanks for the feedback, you are right that there would be teams on most SG servers but lately I've been running into teams of 3 and above, which are way harder to fight.
 

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Dude I know you're new but we all have felt with teamers. This is so unnecessary. And the teaming being bannable? Really? That would. Ring the community down​
Not teaming being bannable in the regular community, in the SMCSG servers.
 

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The only way I could think of this solo team thing to work is...If everyone is a steve and you don't know what your friends name is, It's a ramdom name or the name tag won't show up. That would make it very very hard to team, If they do find there friend, Congrats to them...It'll be very hard to, It doesn't mean they should get banned, when they are about to fight someone they'll get mix-up, then they'll end up killing each other :p
 
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The only way I could think of this solo team thing to work is...If everyone is a steve and you don't know what your friends name is, It's a ramdom name or the name tag won't show up. That would make it very very hard to team, If they do find there friend, Congrats to them...It'll be very hard to, It doesn't mean they should get banned, when they are about to fight someone they'll get mix-up, then they'll end up killing each other :p
That's a good idea, but I'm not trying to outlaw teaming, in MCSG, I'm trying to make a solo variant of the game in who h teaming is not allowed. Like how classic SG is in a different section than regular SG.
 

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*cracks knuckles to begin long post*

Firstly, as jonnysurvives said, there was a discussion about this before, and that is this thread:http://www.minecraftsurvivalgames.com/threads/teaming-is-unfair-and-anti-competitive.114980/. It has all the same ideas and concepts.

Secondly, I do agree there are a lot of teams, and there are a lot of hackers recently. Fair enough, there is not much the user can do about the former. Teams are enjoyable to play in for many users, and a lot of people do it. Thats all fair and common. Many people have begun to become frustrated with this however, because there are more users and therefor more teams. The average player can go 50 games without seeing a server with only solo players on them. Many of our ratios may be better. But maybe fighting the teams makes us better players as a whole. These hypotheticals are not important but are normally some of the complaints of the users who do not team as often. I say as often because more likely than not, each and everyone of us has teamed with a friend before. Who doesn't? It is fun and it is more enjoyable than playing on your own! Two heads are better than one.

That is not the point however. The community searches for a solution. The most common one? Solo Servers! These have been proven to be successful on other servers, including the Nexus. Some people on MCSG do not like the Nexus, but I say this as just an example.

Moving on. The basic concept for these servers are so that solo players can play a game without teams and therefor less risk and more chance of winning. When a game starts, every user looks like you and therefor teams are impossible. This prevents a ban from teaming, which is just stupid in my opinion.

There would need to be separate leaderboards: winning on solo is a lot easier than winning on normal MCSG.

This is all fair and good, except for a couple reasons why this will never be implemented.
  • The MCG survival games were based off of the Hunger Games books and movies. In those, teaming is allowed. The concept of MCSG is to preserve this while adding a "Minecraftesque" touch to the games. By adding solo servers, it will dilute the integrity of the servers themselves, moving it farther away from the original concept.
  • More servers+mods+new concepts= more things that the developers need to do. The last thing they need is one more thing to code and to add. Without any real backing, the project does not have enough size to even begin to have a chance to be implemented.
  • Finally, moderating these servers are near to impossible. MCSG has a policy where they try to keep the servers with less mods in order to speed up game play and prevent server lag and stuff like that. The reason it works on the Nexus is because there are less moderators and more mods that prevent just about all hacks, but instead make it hard to play a game because the server lags out so much. With hackers being prevelant, they could run rampage on these servers without much resistance.
So I ask you: do you prefer hackers or teams? The solo servers would become ridden with them, and would be impossible to fix. That is assuming they ever get implemented, which won't happen because it takes time for the developers to do and it takes away the original ideas of Survival Games.

My advice to you is: If you can't beat the teamers, join them, or fight them. I could name a hundred users who could give you advice on fighting teams.

Hope my opinion makes sense.

-Demon

edit: I feel like Mooclan by writing this post :p
 

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*cracks knuckles to begin long post*

Firstly, as jonnysurvives said, there was a discussion about this before, and that is this thread:http://www.minecraftsurvivalgames.com/threads/teaming-is-unfair-and-anti-competitive.114980/. It has all the same ideas and concepts.

Secondly, I do agree there are a lot of teams, and there are a lot of hackers recently. Fair enough, there is not much the user can do about the former. Teams are enjoyable to play in for many users, and a lot of people do it. Thats all fair and common. Many people have begun to become frustrated with this however, because there are more users and therefor more teams. The average player can go 50 games without seeing a server with only solo players on them. Many of our ratios may be better. But maybe fighting the teams makes us better players as a whole. These hypotheticals are not important but are normally some of the complaints of the users who do not team as often. I say as often because more likely than not, each and everyone of us has teamed with a friend before. Who doesn't? It is fun and it is more enjoyable than playing on your own! Two heads are better than one.

That is not the point however. The community searches for a solution. The most common one? Solo Servers! These have been proven to be successful on other servers, including the Nexus. Some people on MCSG do not like the Nexus, but I say this as just an example.

Moving on. The basic concept for these servers are so that solo players can play a game without teams and therefor less risk and more chance of winning. When a game starts, every user looks like you and therefor teams are impossible. This prevents a ban from teaming, which is just stupid in my opinion.

There would need to be separate leaderboards: winning on solo is a lot easier than winning on normal MCSG.

This is all fair and good, except for a couple reasons why this will never be implemented.
  • The MCG survival games were based off of the Hunger Games books and movies. In those, teaming is allowed. The concept of MCSG is to preserve this while adding a "Minecraftesque" touch to the games. By adding solo servers, it will dilute the integrity of the servers themselves, moving it farther away from the original concept.
  • More servers+mods+new concepts= more things that the developers need to do. The last thing they need is one more thing to code and to add. Without any real backing, the project does not have enough size to even begin to have a chance to be implemented.
  • Finally, moderating these servers are near to impossible. MCSG has a policy where they try to keep the servers with less mods in order to speed up game play and prevent server lag and stuff like that. The reason it works on the Nexus is because there are less moderators and more mods that prevent just about all hacks, but instead make it hard to play a game because the server lags out so much. With hackers being prevelant, they could run rampage on these servers without much resistance.
So I ask you: do you prefer hackers or teams? The solo servers would become ridden with them, and would be impossible to fix. That is assuming they ever get implemented, which won't happen because it takes time for the developers to do and it takes away the original ideas of Survival Games.

My advice to you is: If you can't beat the teamers, join them, or fight them. I could name a hundred users who could give you advice on fighting teams.

Hope my opinion makes sense.

-Demon

edit: I feel like Mooclan by writing this post :p
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Bamber

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Dude I know you're new but we all have felt with teamers. This is so unnecessary. And the teaming being bannable? Really? That would. Ring the community down​
lol what's up with this post? It's all weird looking and oddly structured xD


Anyways, demonsushi up there ^ said everything necessary, so yeah, no.

(But the truth is that teamers have increased dramatically for me in the last 2 weeks or so, I dunno why)
 
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