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About BajanCanadian's Ban - Staff response *READ*

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G33ke

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As I'm sure you guys have noticed, BajanCanadian has been banned for Better Sprint hacking. Lots of his fans will understandably be upset and some have been posting threads bashing the staff and/or MCSG and our decisions. Don't do this. We have heard the same arguments over and over again, and quite frankly going through responding to each one is annoying and repetitive.

From now on, we will be straight locking/deleting threads we see like this. If yours is gone, this is why.


Some quotes from members and Bajan, and responses to them from staff:

Look MCSG, If you dont want to be spammed out of your minds until you unban Bajan, and realize your success is because of Bajan's success, then unbann Benja now.
Staff response: We were successful far before Bajan came on our servers. We understand he donated money to us, that he brought us many users, and that banning him will cause some raging from his fans, but it needed to be done. We warned him numerous times about Better Sprint, but he never took it off. We dealt with him like we would any other user and tempbanned him. We don't need him for the servers to live on, we did just fine without him. It's only fair.

OptiFine is allowed - that gives you an advantage over those who don't know how to set it up. Explain to me why it's not banned as well? It grants FPS boost, farther render distance and advanced graphical options. There is no reason for Better Sprint to be banned - it's banned purely out of stubbornness. I made my opinion on the subject very clear and offered a reasonable solution. Encourage players to use Better Sprint - problem solved! Another thing that really bugs me is the ghost fix command. Not many players know about it, but it can make a huge difference if you're character has gotten out of sync with the server. Explain to me why that isn't something well publicized?
Staff response: Optifine is nothing like Better Sprint - it helps people with worse computers do what those with better computers and no client mods can already do. Better sprint, no matter how good your computer, no matter what you do, is not possible without some sort of direct Minecraft modification. Better sprint also gives unfair advantages; Sprinting as soon as you hit people allows for two knockback hits in a row, allowing mass knockback that deals fall damage on occasion. That half a second faster that you can sprint, (it makes a huge difference - you literally can not sprint that fast with normal Minecraft due to "wobble sprint", the very thing this mod was designed to fix.) and even sprinting up stairs. We will not be changing this system. Better sprint is not allowed.

Better Sprint is an undetectable mod and therefore should be allowed. By the MCSG arguments the reason for it being banned is to create an equal playing field for all players - which is counterintuitive due to it being undetectable. Anyone could use Better Sprint and claim that they aren't. How can you prove otherwise? It's not fair to the law abiding players!
Staff response: Better sprint is entirely detectable. We've banned numerous users for it, and many have even admitted to using it after the ban. It is possible to tell when, for example, the better sprinter sprints without letting go of the jump key during a chase, or when he goes up stairs and sprints the whole way up. (Other ways to detect it too; won't go into detail.) It is admittedly harder to catch than the regular sprint hacking you'd find from a Nodus user and gives nearly the same effect, although impossible to catch is a false statement.


I will add more statements as I find them or they are brought up.


Edit: Keep this thread free of flaming. Friendly mature replies are fine, but the last thing we need is everyone calling everyone else an idiot or heated arguments arising.

A Statement From the Desk of Gibbo:
Bajan has only got a TEMPBAN which means he's not permanently banned from our servers. He was more than welcome to come back with a non-modded client but he doesn't want to. We don't mind if he doesn't want to come back. We did fantastic before he was here and we'll do fantastic after he is here, we're not going to suffer a dent in our community from Bajan and his fan base.
 

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Yeah and if you make your posts about BajanCanadian's ban after you have been warned you will be dealt with accordingly on the forums and your access may be limited.
 

ThatOneTomahawk

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My official response to this whole ordeal. (Sent this to Bajan over Skype)

Alright, obviously there has been a clashing between MCSG and you guys. First thing I would like to say is that I am favoring neither side here, just pointing out flaws on both side of the situation.

Alright, so, my first point I would like to address starts at the beginning, when you guys first joined the MCSG servers. You said that you found there to be 3-4 people in each lobby. This is a lie. In fact, before you had joined, all 30 US and EU servers were constantly full, and we had 48 and 120 slot servers which would indeed also be full all day. (With exceptions of 2 am in the morning, because everyone is sleeping)

As for you increasing traffic to the servers, I cannot argue with that. You indeed did increase the traffic to our servers. Although you cannot join ANY server as a non-donor because it is full, this is not solely because of you. In fact, we have had server other YouTubers in the community give us exposure. (InTheLittleWood, iJustine, MCFinest and many more) So please, on that note, don't say that you are the only people who give us exposure. The only reason it appears to be more is because all of you fans love to put on Bacca skins and yell "IN BENJA WE TRUST, IN BACCA WE MUST!"

The next thing that I would like to touch on is what you call "broken" sprinting mechanism. The only known bug to be found in the sprinting mechanism is the "wobbly" sprint that causes you to go from a non-sprinting state to a sprinting state until you redo your sprint. Now, while this may seem like an annoying bug, it does not happen often and virtually EVERYONE deals with it from time to time. This leads me to my next point, why is BetterSprint banned on our servers?

BetterSprint is banned from our servers because of the unfair advantages it causes. First off, when one normally sprints, it lasts about 30 seconds, and the sprint ends. Thus, the player needs to restart his sprint. With BetterSprint, this does not happen, instead you can run forever. Next, with BetterSprint, you can run up stairs. Without BetterSprint, you cannot run up stairs. This is a game changing factor, especially with maps such as Kharmunrah. (This map has about 300 blocks of stairs heading up to the corn) Another point is, without BetterSprint, when you are attacking someone, your sprint expires. This means, if your opponent runs away, you are forced to run after them. Also, if you wish to hit criticals, which can be done via sprinting, you have to sprint again to be able to hit one. With BetterSprint, there is an unfair advantage here. Not only do you get to chase after him quicker because you never stopped sprinting, but you also hit a much higher amount of criticals because you are constantly sprinting.

Yet another thing I would like to address is you "Not running into any Bacca hackers in any game you are playing" Now, while I admit, not ALL Bacca's are hackers, there are quite a few that I have personally found hacking and have banned. Now, the reason why you haven't seen any while recording on the servers is because any hacker with half a brain will turn off his hacks when he sees a YouTuber in his lobby. Why? Because he knows if he hacks and the YouTuber uploads to thousands of viewers, he is as good as banned! Also, it is quite simple for these hackers to turn off their mods. Most modded clients have an option to hotkey certain hacks. (For example, the hacker binds 8 to turn on Forcefield) All the hacker has to do is use his hotkey to turn off the mods he is using while he is in a game with you.

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ShaunDepro

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Better sprint allows illegal movement to the vanilla client, I don't see how thinks Optifine does the same - and it's not like xray or anything.

By the way, in 1.5 it will be possible to sprint up stairs.
 

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Better sprint allows illegal movement to the vanilla client, I don't see how thinks Optifine does the same - and it's not like xray or anything.

By the way, in 1.5 it will be possible to sprint up stairs.
Really? Yay!
 
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