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No-no suggestions- Survival Games discussion Edition *Read before posting*

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This is an excellent post. I hope this clears up what should and should not be posted to all users!
 

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Hai-

As many of you may have seen, or heard of, slasherxtreme created a thread containing 'No-no suggestions' for the "Feature suggestions" forum. (You can find that thread here.)
The thread basically listed suggestions that had been suggested numerous times, and denied each time.
This thread will work much like that one, except it will contain a list of thread topics that are generally just a bad idea to post about.


Removing maps~
Threads about removing are a 'no-no' simply because it's rude, and will generate quite a large flame war.

How is posting your opinion on a map rude?
Think about it.
You're a map maker who's worked endlessly on an MCSG map, adding even the smallest details and perfecting it to the point where it's accepted into MCSG.
Your feeling pretty good, and as you log into the forums, your heart sinks.
You see a thread titled "Remove {insert map here}."
That's your map.
You click it and find that this person finds your map "Badly built", "Lacking in Gameplay aspects", "Horribly terraformed," and the list goes on.
That's practically getting punched in the stomach.
Imagine how that would feel.


I understand you have an opinion, but sometimes you need to use your better judgment.
A thread like that will do 10x more damage then it's worth, creating a near-definite flame war about the map, and, overall hurting the builder(s) feelings.


If a map was good enough to be added into MCSG, it will NOT be removed.


Who do you think is the best {insert topic} on MCSG?~
Any threads concerning the 'best' anything on MCSG is a 'no-no' because it can and sometimes will hurt the feelings of the people who weren't chosen, or the people who were chosen and lost.
Not only that, but it is a nesting habitat for flame wars about who the best player is.
Sure, it provokes discussion, but it's usually negative.



Lag~
Lag is a definite 'no-no' because it has more than likely already been posted about numerous times, and doesn't really even belong in "Survival Games Discussion."
As a fairly active forummer, the amount of posts about lag has got to be OVER 9000.
Just because you're experiencing some lag, does not mean you need to post a thread about it, demanding it to be fixed.
The developers have lives, and sometimes other jobs.
They cannot sit at their computer, fixing every little bug 24/7.

When a new update comes out, it is always important to notify the community of new bugs and glitches, but after it's been posted about more than three times, we get the idea.

1.7.2~

It has been requested to add this segment, and I agree that it is helpful1.7.2 and it's features has been controversial even before the update was released. There have been plenty of threads, and discussions regarding a particular feature- the "auto-sprint".
Because I am writing this as if it is an article, I will remain completely unbiased to the best of my ability. Whatever your opinion is on the matter, that's yours, not mine :)

Many people find the update to negate fair gameplay, and for it to be annoying, and hurt PVP aspects. Others find it to be OK, and don't really mind at all. Regardless, it is almost unchangeable on MCSG's end, and is difficult to hold a discussion about.

There is only a certain point to which MCSG can negate minecraft updates. Sometimes you just have to go with the flow, and go with whatever minecraft throws at us :p



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This is currently all the major topics I've come up with, so feel free to reply with any you'd like to see added.
Hopefully this will (somewhat) clear up the forums ;)

This is a really good, and interesting thread, nice job! I am sure a lot of people will take this under consideration and will most likely follow your little guide! ^_^

Good luck, and have a good day!

~GetRidaHim
 

Blurry Mundo

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I like your idea about holding back rude opinions on maps, because if that happened to me I would probably cry.
 

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*ahem* my suggestion still isnt up there ;-;
 

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*ahem* my suggestion still isnt up there ;-;
I'm waiting until I get home and can edit it on a computer. I just have my phone and iPad at the moment, and since I might do a full overhaul of the thread, I'm waiting for a computer :)
 

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Sorry for somewhat necro, but can you make "Stopping 1.8" a No-No Suggestion?
 

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I think the structure of this thread is very positive and respectful to others, especially map-makers, which I find kind and reassuring that we have nice people out here.
However, I think that expressing your opinion is exactly what the forums are about. The barrier, however, is not posting flat-out hate, but adding in constructive criticism, in the form of something you like, something that you don't or that needs to be improved, and supplying both statements with support and examples from what you've witnessed. These "no-no suggestions" are perfectly okay, in my opinion, if in the right format. Almost anything in life has potential to "hurt your feelings", but that doesn't mean it should be avoided. If it's a huge problem to say something is wrong with your creation, then maybe you weren't fit for the job in the first place? Criticism comes in many forms, and taking offense certainly won't help you or people wishing for a change.
Just my thoughts on the topic, I know I "necroed" a bit, but Electrix did it first :p .

(Notice how this response was also in the form of constructive criticism, it applies throughout your life!)
 

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I think the structure of this thread is very positive and respectful to others, especially map-makers, which I find kind and reassuring that we have nice people out here.
However, I think that expressing your opinion is exactly what the forums are about. The barrier, however, is not posting flat-out hate, but adding in constructive criticism, in the form of something you like, something that you don't or that needs to be improved, and supplying both statements with support and examples from what you've witnessed. These "no-no suggestions" are perfectly okay, in my opinion, if in the right format. Almost anything in life has potential to "hurt your feelings", but that doesn't mean it should be avoided. If it's a huge problem to say something is wrong with your creation, then maybe you weren't fit for the job in the first place? Criticism comes in many forms, and taking offense certainly won't help you or people wishing for a change.
Just my thoughts on the topic, I know I "necroed" a bit, but Electrix did it first :p .

(Notice how this response was also in the form of constructive criticism, it applies throughout your life!)
I absolutely agree! Unfortunately, even the most constructive of criticism can often be misconstrued or made into an argument, which often times is why we ask users to stray away from those topics.

Given a situation where an opinion is asked for, we completely encourage opinions to be shared! For example, on the map thread itself, or on a map discussion thread, though a thread made entirely with the main topic being wanting to remove a map, in this case, often typically only breeds flame, unfortunately.
 

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